Mercedes W14

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zioture
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Martin Keene
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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:25
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:19
Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:17

Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.
It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
The sidepod inlet has not been installed yet. What's visible is the internal ducting. The missing chunk of the "S" from Petronas says as much.
I think the inlet has been installed. But what we are looking at is a small wing/fence that is hanging down from the mid wing in front of the S.

Cs98
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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:25
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:19
Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:17

Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.
It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
The sidepod inlet has not been installed yet. What's visible is the internal ducting. The missing chunk of the "S" from Petronas says as much.
The opposite. The sidepod inlet has been installed, the sidepod hasn't.

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javalinex
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Anti dive highlighted


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Just_a_fan
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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:23
Midwing is gone. Anti-dive front suspension geometry.
Disagreed on the midwing. Agreed on the suspension.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

AR3-GP
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So basically a Red Bull, AMR inlet. lol. Mid wing is gone. Zero pod is gone.
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Just_a_fan
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Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:21
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:19
Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:17

Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.
It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
That midwing is so thick that the sidepod height from the top of the midwing to the bottom of the inlet creates little space for a possible undercut.
It's interesting and intriguing. The radiators are visible behind and appear to be the same angle/height. I wonder if they've done something really weird like a full width version of the 2022 Williams's sidepod aero hole.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

Martin Keene
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Starting to see why this update has taken so long, fundamental aero change effecting most of the car and a front suspension change that simply has to have involved a tub change, but stops short of a new tub.

cplchanb
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javalinex wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:30
Anti dive highlighted


https://i.imgur.com/xlY26oo.png
Any before pics for comparison?

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SiLo
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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:25
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:19
Cs98 wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:17

Looks like it has been incorporated as the top of the sidepod inlet.
It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
The sidepod inlet has not been installed yet. What's visible is the internal ducting. The missing chunk of the "S" from Petronas says as much.
That's actually an extra piece of carbon that looks like it protrudes downwards and is blocking our view of part of the S.
Felipe Baby!

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javalinex
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cplchanb wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:35
javalinex wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:30
Anti dive highlighted


https://i.imgur.com/xlY26oo.png
Any before pics for comparison?
Yes.

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AR3-GP
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SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:38
AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:25
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:19

It looks like an inverted Red Bull protruding lip. Overbite rather than underbite.
The sidepod inlet has not been installed yet. What's visible is the internal ducting. The missing chunk of the "S" from Petronas says as much.
That's actually an extra piece of carbon that looks like it protrudes downwards and is blocking our view of part of the S.
i stand corrected
A lion must kill its prey.

Venturiation
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SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:10
https://i.imgur.com/6NkhF8i.png

Hopefully this makes sense.
100% the midwing is still there
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AR3-GP
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Venturiation wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:53
SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:10
https://i.imgur.com/6NkhF8i.png

Hopefully this makes sense.
100% the midwing is still there
https://storage.googleapis.com/the-race ... -entry.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw4nHvmX0AE ... me=900x900
look at the undercut on the sidepod. The mid-wing by all means has been reduced to a very short appendage.
A lion must kill its prey.

Venturiation
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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:57
Venturiation wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:53
SiLo wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:10
https://i.imgur.com/6NkhF8i.png

Hopefully this makes sense.
100% the midwing is still there
https://storage.googleapis.com/the-race ... -entry.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw4nHvmX0AE ... me=900x900
look at the undercut on the sidepod. The mid-wing by all means has been reduced to a very short appendage.
no just look at the mirror mount it's the same
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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2023, 13:23
Midwing is gone. Anti-dive front suspension geometry.
no midwing is there