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The only floor that remains to be seen which I'm curious about is Aston Martin.
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AR3-GP wrote:
27 May 2023, 20:49
The only floor that remains to be seen which I'm curious about is Aston Martin.
You'd have to hope for either of them to crash so better not. I guess that'd be the only redeeming quality of such a thing.
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KimiRai wrote:
27 May 2023, 20:51
AR3-GP wrote:
27 May 2023, 20:49
The only floor that remains to be seen which I'm curious about is Aston Martin.
You'd have to hope for either of them to crash so better not.
No crashing needed. Just need a Merc PU to eat a piston again, but definitely not on Alonso's car :lol:
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AR3-GP wrote:
27 May 2023, 20:52

but definitely not on Alonso's car :lol:
Dont jinx it... Hes had great luck so far but you never know when his terrible luck will reappear.

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He lost it all in Rascasse. He said there is a problem compared to them in that corner and it is fixable for Singapore...


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majki2111 wrote:
27 May 2023, 21:02

He lost it all in Rascasse. He said there is a problem compared to them in that corner and it is fixable for Singapore...
Tom McCullough has explained it now.

“All weekend we’ve found that our weak sector was sector three which consists of two low-speed corners immediately after the high-speed stuff and there’s quite a lot of warp in the road at those two corners and mechanically we just weren’t good there. They demand a lot of traction and we just couldn’t get the power down. We were the eighth-fastest car in that sector.”

With a mechanically weak rear end, the last thing the Aston needed was an extra prep lap, which would have made the rear tyres too hot in its weakest sector, at the end of the lap. “We tried to save the tyres for that last sector,” says McCullough.

“Fernando, knowing that, surrendered a bit of time into the chicane on that final lap, and we need to analyse whether that gained us more than it lost. We’ve got such a different car aerodynamically to last year and the tyres are different too. We’re still trying to understand it all. Fernando said the car felt super-strong in the high-speed and it’s always a trade-off. Did we get that trade-off right?”
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... -pole-yet/

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Just amazing laps from both.


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KimiRai wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:21
Just amazing laps from both.

At 1:17 , is it just me that it looks like Alonso cross the finish line first in the video? How could he be slower than Verstappen in this lap?
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draghixa wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:23
KimiRai wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:21
Just amazing laps from both.

At 1:17 , is it just me that it looks like Alonso cross the finish line first in the video? How could he be slower than Verstappen in this lap?
https://ibb.co/zrJg7mG
Lol you are right... could it be due to camera lag? Imagine Fernando having a faster lap but the timings bugged out!

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KimiRai wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:26
draghixa wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:23
KimiRai wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:21
Just amazing laps from both.

At 1:17 , is it just me that it looks like Alonso cross the finish line first in the video? How could he be slower than Verstappen in this lap?
https://ibb.co/zrJg7mG
Lol you are right... could it be due to camera lag? Imagine Fernando having a faster lap but the timings bugged out!
Broadcast footage has all sorts of anomalies, dropped frames, lag, post processing, etc... So if one lap is 1 tenth off in one direction and another lap 1 tenth off in a different direction then you can get such discrepancies.

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draghixa wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:23
KimiRai wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:21
Just amazing laps from both.

At 1:17 , is it just me that it looks like Alonso cross the finish line first in the video? How could he be slower than Verstappen in this lap?
https://ibb.co/zrJg7mG
The videos are not in sync. It's just a visualization by FOM.
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The only small mistake I've seen Aston make is the 50 dead seconds Alo had after completing his lap. Either they could've sent him out earlier so he had another try or sent him later so he could've had a very small track improvement. While not a big mistake, Red Bull is still a stronger team on the strategy department.

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KimiRai wrote:
28 May 2023, 02:09
The only small mistake I've seen Aston make is the 50 dead seconds Alo had after completing his lap. Either they could've sent him out earlier so he had another try or sent him later so he could've had a very small track improvement. While not a big mistake, Red Bull is still a stronger team on the strategy department.
Maybe Alonso wanted to go out before Leclerc...
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There is always a big risk to going out last at Monaco. It sas very possible that RB strategy would end up looking like the dunces should a red flag have prevented max from putting in the final lap, especially given the last 2 years have been decided in this manor at Monaco, as well as other recent races (Miami etc)

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organic wrote:
28 May 2023, 03:13
There is always a big risk to going out last at Monaco. It sas very possible that RB strategy would end up looking like the dunces should a red flag have prevented max from putting in the final lap, especially given the last 2 years have been decided in this manor at Monaco, as well as other recent races (Miami etc)
You have a point.