2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[taperoo2k]

Marshall starts on the 1st of January 2024, as stated in the McLaren article I shared earlier.

[mwillems]

Anyone got thoughts on this appointment?

That’s a BIG signing… wow

I could be wrong.. but believe only Newey and Wache were ahead of him in the technical structure

Very big, in all senses, he's an engineering "Kingpin"

[bauc]

Anyone got thoughts on this appointment?

That’s a BIG signing… wow

I could be wrong.. but believe only Newey and Wache were ahead of him in the technical structure

Very big, in all senses, he's an engineering "Kingpin"

Very big move, the result will be felt in 2025

[mwillems]

That’s a BIG signing… wow

I could be wrong.. but believe only Newey and Wache were ahead of him in the technical structure

Very big, in all senses, he's an engineering "Kingpin"

Very big move, the result will be felt in 2025

I was hoping someone would get my Daredevil reference lol

[Ground Effect]

Very big, in all senses, he's an engineering "Kingpin"

Very big move, the result will be felt in 2025

I was hoping someone would get my Daredevil reference lol

That’s a bit mean isn’t it?

[Slahinki]

Looks like quite the catch by the team!

[ScottR267]

Seems like a good move on paper for McLaren. Have to give Zak and the team credit where it’s due in attracting big names to the team to improve the teams fortunes.

Zak did mention about big names joining the team, I wonder if there are any others to follow?

[mwillems]

Marshall starts on the 1st of January 2024, as stated in the McLaren article I shared earlier.

6 Month gardening leave and no haggling with Red Bull, it seems far too easy!

Just in time to get his ideas on to the 2025 Mclaren MCL62.

[continuum16]

While of course this isn’t the “Lando Norris F1 Team” and I’m not an F1 driver at an underperforming team, I think if I were Lando and was being tempted away by other teams the signing of Marshall would make me severely reconsider. Between Marshall, Sanchez, and the new wind tunnel there should be absolutely no reason why the 2025 McLaren should have any of the “undesirable” traits of the last 4 cars from a handling perspective.

[Mostlyeels]

6 Month gardening leave and no haggling with Red Bull, it seems far too easy!

I know, especially after all that business with Dan Fallows. Maybe they're secretly getting someone from McLaren in return?

[swifteddie1]

While of course this isn’t the “Lando Norris F1 Team” and I’m not an F1 driver at an underperforming team, I think if I were Lando and was being tempted away by other teams the signing of Marshall would make me severely reconsider. Between Marshall, Sanchez, and the new wind tunnel there should be absolutely no reason why the 2025 McLaren should have any of the “undesirable” traits of the last 4 cars from a handling perspective.

I beg to differ - if theres an opening at Redbull/Mercedes for 2023/2024 - i think hes gone. He has been incredibly patient but we are a long way from fighting for wins. The talk from Zak Brown recently was for a competitive second half of the year, fighting for podiums and the occasional win next year. His plan has us fighting for regular wins in 2025. I just dont see that happening.

[swifteddie1]

I apologize if this has been posted before - but this is an interesting article about the 2026 regulations and the pros/cons of being a works team.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/arti ... gine-deal/

I know there have been a lot of debate lately with the Aston/Honda deal in here and i think the article sheds some light on why you would want to be a works team. Previously i was of the opinion that one could potentially fight for championships without a works deal but i'm starting to move into the other camp. There is just so much integration that will have to happen, especially with the amount of electrical energy that these new power units will need to produce that i just don't see how you can have aspirations of winning championships without some sort of works deal.

The three teams that are without works deals are essentially Williams/Haas/McLaren.

Its going to be interesting how the next few months go but its already looking like we are starting on the back foot for 2026.

[Ground Effect]

6 Month gardening leave and no haggling with Red Bull, it seems far too easy!

I know, especially after all that business with Dan Fallows. Maybe they're secretly getting someone from McLaren in return?

I think it largely depends on his contract situation. He joined around the same time with Newey, maybe they're on the same timeline. Newey just signed a new contract, so perhaps Marshall has got very little time left on his contract and of course isn't re-signing.

[Ground Effect]

While of course this isn’t the “Lando Norris F1 Team” and I’m not an F1 driver at an underperforming team, I think if I were Lando and was being tempted away by other teams the signing of Marshall would make me severely reconsider. Between Marshall, Sanchez, and the new wind tunnel there should be absolutely no reason why the 2025 McLaren should have any of the “undesirable” traits of the last 4 cars from a handling perspective.

I beg to differ - if theres an opening at Redbull/Mercedes for 2023/2024 - i think hes gone. He has been incredibly patient but we are a long way from fighting for wins. The talk from Zak Brown recently was for a competitive second half of the year, fighting for podiums and the occasional win next year. His plan has us fighting for regular wins in 2025. I just dont see that happening.

He isn't gone, because he's contracted to the end of 2025. We've been told there's no release clause. I don't think Zak's predictions are unrealistic. With what's being lined up, the time frame is reasonable. We've just witnessed AMR make a big leap in a matter og months by hiring some top guys, which McLaren is doing. I'd also expect a few trusted lieutenants to come along with Marshall and Sanchez. The wind tunnel coming online, new sim and more up to date manufacturing tools. I actually don't see why anything less should be rhe case.

[swifteddie1]

6 Month gardening leave and no haggling with Red Bull, it seems far too easy!

I know, especially after all that business with Dan Fallows. Maybe they're secretly getting someone from McLaren in return?

I think it largely depends on his contract situation. He joined around the same time with Newey, maybe they're on the same timeline. Newey just signed a new contract, so perhaps Marshall has got very little time left on his contract and of course isn't re-signing.

I am starting wonder if McLaren are in fact going with RedBull - Ford Power Trains for 2026.