2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[deadhead]

I did an analysis of the tires last year, so I can't agree with you here about 2022 and the hard tires. Ferrari's dilemma began the moment they put the floor on the car that corresponded to TD039. The tires, and also the hard ones used on several occasions before (I'd have to check at which GPs exactly) worked very well and the degradation was not much worse than Red Bulls. Where later after 8-10 laps the tires broke down and the hard compound no longer worked, before that you could do over 20 laps and the ones on the hard compound were as fast or faster than Red Bull. It was the TD039 that threw both set-up and tires out the window.

Spot on.

I remember reading somewhere how the car completely changed after, but for whatever reason the team boss never said anything about it.

[Schippke]

Wow so many upgrades. Hopium is back. Expecting both Ferrari drivers to be on podium.

Don’t get your hopes up; At best, we might see Charles on the podium, whilst the 2 Bulls disappear. We still haven’t seen the full potential of Mercedes big upgrade (Monaco is too unique to draw any meaningful conclusions) and Fernando will be extra motivated to perform at home… they’ll be strong here too.

Heck, even Alpine seem confident enough they can trouble Ferrari. Last one seems less likely, but they’ve definitely been on the up recently…

[ing.]

I think it is the concept at fault allied to lack of creativity—wow, tiny little S-duct!—and no new ideas. They couldn’t even change the lower SIS tubes so as to eventually try a larger undercut if in-season development required this.

Sure, it's the concept... the concept which worked perfectly last season. But if you say so, it is true, right?

Lack of creativity? The team which has been one of the most creative ones in the last few years?

New ideas? S-duct, lowering the chassis on the front to allow a new suspension geometry, a new front nose and wing, an amazingly tight engine cover... to name a few. In short, many changes which absolutely make sense. These are the obvious ones only.

Lower SIS tube to "TRY" a larger undercut? What?

To sum it up: What are you talking about?

[jambuka]

Sainz struggling so bad with upgraded car in FP1

[AR3-GP]

Sainz struggling so bad with upgraded car in FP1

I read that he thought the car felt better, but of course we don't know if it's just a placebo effect until Q3...

[jambuka]

Sainz struggling so bad with upgraded car in FP1

I read that he thought the car felt better, but of course we don't know if it's just a placebo effect until Q3...

From the onboards it seemed he was constantly making corrections except the last 5 min run.

[Xyz22]

Never forget

[CaribouBread]

On the global feed, they showed Sainz's car had very high ride height compared to Leclerc's. I have not seen the full session lap times but assuming the car can go lower and the floor is designed to be used lower, the fact that Sainz already posted almost the same fastest lap time as Leclerc with his bottomed out setup is mildly encouraging.

Maybe if its run a bit lower and they find a decent setup, hopefully it can trouble the Astons.

[AR3-GP]

dialtone any luck with telemetry? F1 tempo still doesn't have anything over an hour after.

[Xyz22]

dialtone any luck with telemetry? F1 tempo still doesn't have anything over an hour after.

We have this

[dialtone]

dialtone any luck with telemetry? F1 tempo still doesn't have anything over an hour after.

No, data is not there yet, I presume the graph shown by xyz22 is from the livestream of fastf1 but i was sleeping, although my son has now decided it's the right time to practice crawling, walking and talking in bed.

[dialtone]

Actually I was wrong, the problem is presumably they removed the imola gp from the numbering so this is the 7th gp. Here's SAI v VER:



in high speed stuff plus a couple of slow speed corners VER is superior, I don't think they have the right setup on SAI car.

SAI v LEC:


doesn't seem they have the right setup for LEC either. If someone watched their laps it would be nice to know what happened in S1 because that's some bad work.

Personally I don't expect a lot of changes in the car due to sidepods unless they really revised the floor, look at the Mercs last week, not that different timing wise, at minimum it will take time to find the right setup.

[AR3-GP]

Actually I was wrong, the problem is presumably they removed the imola gp from the numbering so this is the 7th gp. Here's SAI v VER:

https://i.imgur.com/9waugpF.jpeg

in high speed stuff plus a couple of slow speed corners VER is superior, I don't think they have the right setup on SAI car.

SAI v LEC:
https://i.imgur.com/7G0E0rw.jpeg

doesn't seem they have the right setup for LEC either. If someone watched their laps it would be nice to know what happened in S1 because that's some bad work.

Personally I don't expect a lot of changes in the car due to sidepods unless they really revised the floor, look at the Mercs last week, not that different timing wise, at minimum it will take time to find the right setup.

Thank you!

[F1ern]

Curious if they will use the upgrades on both cars in FP2.

[organic]

Curious if they will use the upgrades on both cars in FP2.

Expecting they will