2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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jambuka wrote:
15 Jun 2023, 19:04
Xyz22 wrote:
15 Jun 2023, 13:22
organic wrote:
15 Jun 2023, 10:20


Nothing new for Ferrari here.



https://formu1a.uno/anteprima-gp-canada ... -mercedes/
Thank god. They would make the car even slower.



Btw according to the same article the SF 23 is the 6th car in terms of high speed corners performance lmao
2 redbulls, 2 mercedes, 1 AMR. Then 2 Ferrari's. Makes sense its 6 & 7 fastest.
No according to them is Red Bull McLaren Mercedes AM alpine Ferrari

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sain ... /10483326/

Carlos talking about Ferrari's race pace issues.

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So basically we have:

Red Bull: Front Wing
Mercedes: Sidepod Winglet removed
Alpine: Rear Wing, Rear Suspension Fairing, Front Brake Ducts
McLaren: Rear Wing (Flap & Endplate), Beam Wing
Alfa Romeo: Rear Brake Ducts
Aston Martin: Engine Cover, Cooling Louvres, Floor
Haas: Rear Wing, Cooling Louvres, Floor Edge
Alpha Tauri: Front Wing Flaps
Williams: Floor, Engine Cover, Mirror, Halo Fairing, Rear Suspension, Rear Brake Duct Winglets, Rear Wing Endplate

And

Ferrari: Niente

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codetower wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 18:18
So basically we have:

Red Bull: Front Wing
Mercedes: Sidepod Winglet removed
Alpine: Rear Wing, Rear Suspension Fairing, Front Brake Ducts
McLaren: Rear Wing (Flap & Endplate), Beam Wing
Alfa Romeo: Rear Brake Ducts
Aston Martin: Engine Cover, Cooling Louvres, Floor
Haas: Rear Wing, Cooling Louvres, Floor Edge
Alpha Tauri: Front Wing Flaps
Williams: Floor, Engine Cover, Mirror, Halo Fairing, Rear Suspension, Rear Brake Duct Winglets, Rear Wing Endplate

And

Ferrari: Niente
Don't forget that Mercedes in the same timeframe as Ferrari brought not only and aero update but also a significant front suspension revision. This team is nowhere near close to even fight for a WDC, let alone win.

I really don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. What are they going to do for next year car? They went from second best in 2022 to fourth best in 2024... They have no idea why the car is performing this badly ... I'm expecting an awful second half of the season and the same for the next following seasons.

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codetower wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 18:18
So basically we have:

Red Bull: Front Wing
Mercedes: Sidepod Winglet removed
Alpine: Rear Wing, Rear Suspension Fairing, Front Brake Ducts
McLaren: Rear Wing (Flap & Endplate), Beam Wing
Alfa Romeo: Rear Brake Ducts
Aston Martin: Engine Cover, Cooling Louvres, Floor
Haas: Rear Wing, Cooling Louvres, Floor Edge
Alpha Tauri: Front Wing Flaps
Williams: Floor, Engine Cover, Mirror, Halo Fairing, Rear Suspension, Rear Brake Duct Winglets, Rear Wing Endplate

And

Ferrari: Niente
Looking by their track record imo none of us really expect them to unlock anything spl even if they enlist 10 new upgrades.

Also they are still in the limbo regarding last weekend. Sainz saying different things, Charles saying another while the car has its own code language 😂😂. Better they synchronise what they have first befor bringing in something new.

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French TV saying a new FW meant to complete this aero package in Austria. We’ll see.

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ing. wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 20:34
French TV saying a new FW meant to complete this aero package in Austria. We’ll see.
Yes, it would change nothing of course.

In my opinion they need a new suspension, front and back, until then, this will continue to be a midfield car with a few flashes of speed at stop/go tracks.

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First decent friday since Baku. I honestly can't believe it.

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Xyz22 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:01
First decent friday since Baku. I honestly can't believe it.
Leclerc and max both had similar long run pace

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organic wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:04
Xyz22 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:01
First decent friday since Baku. I honestly can't believe it.
Leclerc and max both had similar long run pace
Before the red flag was also over 0.2s faster than Sainz in T1 in quali run. I hope they won't make it worse tonight like they did in the past.

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Anyone got the long run performance figures? Car looked good tbf. Here’s hoping for a decent weekend. Ferrari need to make the most of these low deg tracks

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:14
Anyone got the long run performance figures? Car looked good tbf. Here’s hoping for a decent weekend. Ferrari need to make the most of these low deg tracks
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close enough that the sf-23 could fight for the win on sunday IMO. Not even a SC may be required - the km/h advantage down the straight (+4km/h over RB) in Fp2 may also prove crucial should Leclerc gain track position (eg through quali or great start)

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organic wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:34
Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:14
Anyone got the long run performance figures? Car looked good tbf. Here’s hoping for a decent weekend. Ferrari need to make the most of these low deg tracks
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyxuIajXgAI ... &name=orig

close enough that the sf-23 could fight for the win on sunday IMO. Not even a SC may be required - the km/h advantage down the straight (+4km/h over RB) in Fp2 may also prove crucial should Leclerc gain track position (eg through quali or great start)
With this even Norris & Gasly seem to be in the mix.

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jambuka wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:43
organic wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:34
Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:14
Anyone got the long run performance figures? Car looked good tbf. Here’s hoping for a decent weekend. Ferrari need to make the most of these low deg tracks
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyxuIajXgAI ... &name=orig

close enough that the sf-23 could fight for the win on sunday IMO. Not even a SC may be required - the km/h advantage down the straight (+4km/h over RB) in Fp2 may also prove crucial should Leclerc gain track position (eg through quali or great start)
With this even Norris & Gasly seem to be in the mix.
Makes me believe that this isn't how things will shake out on Sunday.

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jambuka wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:43
organic wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:34
Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 00:14
Anyone got the long run performance figures? Car looked good tbf. Here’s hoping for a decent weekend. Ferrari need to make the most of these low deg tracks
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyxuIajXgAI ... &name=orig

close enough that the sf-23 could fight for the win on sunday IMO. Not even a SC may be required - the km/h advantage down the straight (+4km/h over RB) in Fp2 may also prove crucial should Leclerc gain track position (eg through quali or great start)
With this even Norris & Gasly seem to be in the mix.
The problem is RB regression.