Awful qualy…
This will be a very long half season now.
Fighting for P8-10, and given that this is a « good » track for the car even no points.
Never saw a team fall that quickly
Exactly. When you're pushing at 4 or 5 on 10, you make almost no mistakes. When you're pushing 9 or 10 on 10, you're margin for error is slim to none. When Alonso is pushing 10 on 10 on turns 13 and 14 well, he's not gonna get it right 100% of time. The degree of difficulty is much higher.alonsofan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2023, 22:40Nobody is saying he's taking it easy, but definitely not pushing like his life is hanging by a thin thread. Doing his job as an average F1 driver to me. And in such a sceanrio, any driver hardly makes any mistake.
Taking pole by brushing walls in a superior car is poor driving. Very lucky he didn't end up in the wall.
I feel that's a very valid point, they don't appear to have made the gain (look similar in pace as before) some other teams have experienced. That itself is clouded in the updates other chassis have brought to track.
No other driver had a car that could even attempt that.
Mate. This level of conversation is beneath you. You could clearly see that VER had to go all out in Monaco to even get close to pole. Peak DF is not the RB19s strength and it shows up in Hungary and Monaco. The fact is you guys are arguing a point that you can’t even begin to back up with facts. Please stop101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 09:42No other driver had a car that could even attempt that.
Yep, they haven't had much in upgrades aside from the Canada one. So maybe they have diverted significant resources to 2024 early on.nowaysthatsreal wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 06:56Clearly someone like a nando would be faster on one lap if he was driving AMR but not at the cost of FA, Lance needs to be replaced by someone who can match FA or do better. The points table would look different if Lance was scoring when competition was struggling with their cars. But lack of pace specifically for this track is concerning. Updates did not get em closer to RB, and that’s strange given the wind tunnel time they had.
Rules are stable so if updates are not working on current car. It makes sense to focus on this year, find a stable direction to develop the car before putting resources on next year. They brought one big upgrade and it failed.diffuser wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 11:29Yep, they haven't had much in upgrades aside from the Canada one. So maybe they have diverted significant resources to 2024 early on.nowaysthatsreal wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 06:56Clearly someone like a nando would be faster on one lap if he was driving AMR but not at the cost of FA, Lance needs to be replaced by someone who can match FA or do better. The points table would look different if Lance was scoring when competition was struggling with their cars. But lack of pace specifically for this track is concerning. Updates did not get em closer to RB, and that’s strange given the wind tunnel time they had.
I keep thinking that they've been saying all Along that they haven't been expecting this huge uptic in performance. They might have been already planning to take what they'd learned and roll it into the following year's car.
They need to increase the undercut even more, remove the kick out from the side pods and improve performance from the floor.
Well that sucks.max_speed wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 14:09Rules are stable so if updates are not working on current car. It makes sense to focus on this year, find a stable direction to develop the car before putting resources on next year. They brought one big upgrade and it failed.diffuser wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 11:29Yep, they haven't had much in upgrades aside from the Canada one. So maybe they have diverted significant resources to 2024 early on.nowaysthatsreal wrote: ↑23 Jul 2023, 06:56Clearly someone like a nando would be faster on one lap if he was driving AMR but not at the cost of FA, Lance needs to be replaced by someone who can match FA or do better. The points table would look different if Lance was scoring when competition was struggling with their cars. But lack of pace specifically for this track is concerning. Updates did not get em closer to RB, and that’s strange given the wind tunnel time they had.
I keep thinking that they've been saying all Along that they haven't been expecting this huge uptic in performance. They might have been already planning to take what they'd learned and roll it into the following year's car.
They need to increase the undercut even more, remove the kick out from the side pods and improve performance from the floor.
Till now both alonso and krack were saying track specific performance of opponents, finally yesterday Krack admitted rivals have out developed them.in formula1 excuses are dead weights tied to your feet they take you to the bottom faster.