2023 Aston Martin | Aramco | Cognizant F1 Team

[Jambier]

They are now 5th force on the grid hence likely to finish 5th in WCC.

We had a good first half nevertheless, now let’s hope for 2024 but I’ m less confident now that everyone switched to RBR style car

[alonsofan]

I would be happy to swallow my words, but "Fallows to the Gallows" for me.

[max_speed]

Look at this team. Race pace is no where and pit stop 1+ seconds slower than other teams. They deserve to be 5th fastest team and soon to be outside top 5

[max_speed]

I would be happy to swallow my words, but "Fallows to the Gallows" for me.

There is difference between an innovator and an copier. Time scale is revealing how overrated he has been.

[PinkFloydPulse]

I wonder if Lawrence is fuming and pissed off… I would think so… Sad they are nowhere atm, seems pos 5 in wdc is what they will be this year…

[peewon]

Just taking step back and looking at it. No team was really slow today.

Don't think even VER lapped any car today, race was, pace-wise very different from other races.

Hards/Med didn't have deg advantage over softs in first stint and Softs didn't have any pace advantage in last stint.

May be because of new tyres!!! Have to see what teams say going into next race

I think ALO said same thing in TV Pen today, new tyre construction has changed cars performance.

Is it purely tyre related? or tyre is affecting aero? its for teams to figure that out but things have changed and its for bad w.r.t AM.

He and the team are just coping or putting on a brave face to stall Lawrence Stroll or not let the morale drop. They have been talking about it being track specific performance issues when in reality they have been worse at everything except 90deg corners. Im not even sure they're better there anymore. How can the tyres effect one team and one team only which was already losing ground to other teams before they were introduced? If anything stiffer front tyres should've helped them considering their poor front end.

Whats worse than falling behind is that they are making excuses for it which means they dont have any idea of how to improve things either. So I dont think this is a '23 or '24 season issue. Mclaren, Mercedes and Ferrari have basically rebuilt half their cars mid season, in a matter of 3-4 months because they knew where the problems were and had a solution for it.

[max_speed]

First they copied mercedes and this year redbull and now copy talent is exhausted. There is lot of similiarity if you compare 2 years their upgrades failed. I must admit this year cooying has been bit more effective.

[GoranF1]

Mercedes sabotaging Aston

Maybe, and just maybe, you should think a little bit what you are writing.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/07/22/ast ... ge-alonso/

[diffuser]

Well that sucked.

[PinkFloydPulse]

Mercedes sabotaging Aston

Maybe, and just maybe, you should think a little bit what you are writing.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/07/22/ast ... ge-alonso/

Yes, we see quite well how it affected RB… Let’s cut the crap guys, car went backwards and that’s it… While others rebuilt their cars during the year AM did very little and those are facts

[Alonso Fan]

Maybe, and just maybe, you should think a little bit what you are writing.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/07/22/ast ... ge-alonso/

Yes, we see quite well how it affected RB… Let’s cut the crap guys, car went backwards and that’s it… While others rebuilt their cars during the year AM did very little and those are facts

Always remember the car had to go forwards to go backwards. I said it before and I'll say it again. No one here appreciated it when we were scoring podiums left right and centre. Consistent top 10 was always the target form the beginning. When the team started overachieving everyone jumped on the bandwagon and treated Aston like a top team. The truth is it's still far from that. If 2 or 3 years from now the team is still targeting and achieving this same thing then I'll agree we have an alpine problem. Until then there will be many ups and downs. No need to go after people's heads because of it.

[max_speed]

Mercedes sabotaging Aston

Maybe, and just maybe, you should think a little bit what you are writing.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/07/22/ast ... ge-alonso/

All excuses, incapable folks hide behind excuses. Keep defending them soon they will be behind williams then we will look for another one.

[Alex_Z]

Mercedes sabotaging Aston

Maybe, and just maybe, you should think a little bit what you are writing.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/07/22/ast ... ge-alonso/

What does the tyre change have to do with Mercedes? Also aston were poor in Austria & Spain before the new tyres were introduced. The other teams did a better job with their upgrades.

[NAPI10]

Car neither has One lap pace nor Race pace on a track which suits them most.AM has completely screwed up the car characteristic with the last upgrade. Now they are 'Lost' or 'Back to drawing board' mode...whatever it is ,just come clean. There is no shame in admitting mistake.....just stop giving excuses. On top of that ,we are bringing upgrades to every weekend...really.

[DGP123]

Said the honeymoon was over a while ago. Unfortunately, AM are now in the doldrums. Upgrade direction has been a shocker. If only Fallows could just nip back into the MK office on Monday, and find those other notes of Newey’s he didn’t take.

Be amazed if Alonso sticks around, if this continues into next year.