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Krack on Lance and Fernando

We are fortunate that both drivers have a very open dialogue, they exchange lots about their feelings about the car, about their thoughts, and they often come into the debriefs or into the meetings with a consolidated opinion which is very good for us, because then you do not have to try to get into two development directions but only take one so we're quite happy with the way it has evolved over the last races, the drivers. And I have to say credit to both of them because it was a difficult situation when you are used to a front running car and then you start to slip back a bit it's easy to get destructive and it happened exactly the opposite, so I'm really really happy the way that this has evolved and I'm really sorry for the drivers that we didn't manage to keep up there but rest assured we will try everything to come back.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 1ufbU.html

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Very extensive interview from Aston's website.

https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ng-special

With success comes expectation, but this isn't always the easiest thing to navigate. After a rollercoaster five months in which the team has announced itself at the top table of F1, Team Principal Mike Krack talks candidly about our season so far and the journey we're on.

It is perhaps unwise to describe anything as complex as a human being in a single word but were one forced to describe Mike Krack in such a way, that word would be 'calm'.

Mike inhabits temperament's Goldilocks zone: a slight grin when the team does well; a small frown when things go wrong – and possibly a few words said under his breath. There are no wild celebrations in his pitwall seat when the team bags a podium; no histrionics when the day goes against us.

It's not, Mike insists, because he isn't feeling it – he's a proper dyed-in-the-wool racer – but rather that he thinks it's important to maintain a sense of proportion.

Before signing off for the summer break, Mike opens up about dealing with the weight of expectation after our strong start to the season, the progress the team has made on and off the track, Lance's comeback from injury, Fernando's total focus, and more.

Raw, unfiltered and as honest as ever. In the latest instalment of our UNDERCUT interview series, which asks the questions you want answered, Mike provides a frank assessment of the team's season so far and where the team stands on its journey.

The team sits third in the Constructors' Championship with six podiums to its name – but the last few Grands Prix have been challenging. Where are we right now and how should fans be feeling?

It's true that the more recent races have been more difficult, some of our competitors have taken bigger steps forward on track than us, and this underlines how important it is to enjoy the highs because they don't come automatically.

Nothing is given in Formula One, the competition is fierce, and this makes all that we have achieved so far this season even more impressive – it really emphasises how well the team has done.

Naturally, expectations have increased based on what we achieved, but I think it's important to temper them with the reality that we are still very much growing and developing as a team. We're still in a building phase – quite literally in many respects: just look at our new Technology Campus where only phase one is complete.

We've made great progress, but we've still got a long way to go. At the beginning of our journey, we said it would take several years to realise our ambitions – that doesn't change because of the achievements of the team so far this year.

Is the heightened expectation a help or a hindrance?

In football, you speak about the fans being like a 12th player on the pitch and I think it's similar for us: when people are there encouraging us, wearing the shirt, cheering us on, there's a subconscious boost.

People might think that in all that noise and drama, support from the grandstands or on social media doesn't matter but it does. It really does. It matters. We appreciate it and it helps us – and we never take it for granted.

There's going to be a lot of orange next time out in the Netherlands and a lot of red at the race in Italy after that – but hopefully we can spot the green in amongst it! We certainly did at the Spanish, Canadian and British Grands Prix – there was so much green and so much energy from our fans. It was incredible to see, and I want to see even more.

Why have we dropped back from our strong start to the season?

We've lost small amounts compared to our competitors and as an engineer, that makes you disappointed, but it's the qualifying and finishing positions that give the perception that we've dropped back massively when in reality we haven't. Our competitors have just improved more than us and jumped into that gap between us and Red Bull.

We're constantly pushing the development, and these cars are so complex that any change will impact other areas of the car – there are side effects. Very few changes you make to the car work in isolation. We made a change earlier in the season and didn't anticipate it having some of the side effects that it did. It wasn't until after several races at different types of circuits that we realised how it was influencing the car.

The upgrades we have put on the car have worked, and the numbers are where they should be – but I think the results over the last few races are representative of where we are.

Events like Monaco and Canada were outliers – they masked the weaknesses – and because we did well in those events, expectations ramped up only for the disappointment to be bigger at Barcelona, Austria, Silverstone and Budapest when we couldn't achieve such top results.

The layout of the Hungaroring was expected to suit our car. How disappointed were you with that result?

Budapest was a reality check. We thought that we would be strong there and we weren't, but it made us take a zoomed-out view and look not at Hungary in isolation but see Budapest and how it relates to Silverstone, how it relates to Barcelona and so on. It's all important learning.

From the start of the season, I've been saying that these events are very dynamic, and with an upgrade it takes a couple of races to understand what the AMR23 is doing. After lots of analysis in the aftermath of Budapest we understand the changes we need to make.

We've improved less than the others so now it's up to us to improve more than them.

How can you be confident the upgrades will allow us to take a step forward?

Formula One is incredibly complicated. I don't want to over-promise; there could be some hidden things around the corner that we have not yet identified, but the early indications from our analysis are that we now understand more about our weaknesses and how to improve. I expect the second half of the season to see more close racing with the advantage swinging back and forth again.

How do you respond to a disappointing result or when things don't go to plan?

It's all about setting the right example. In good times you have to stand back, but in less good times you have to step to the front. Not to put people under pressure but to express the positive attitude and the competitive spirit – and to be there for them.

If we have a bad day – and everyone does – it's important that I don't drag myself off the pitwall like a beaten dog. You have to walk back to the garage and show everyone that we will fight back next time out.

What are your highlights from the first half of the season?

It's not necessarily the podiums. For me, Lance's comeback from injury and Fernando's special approach in Monaco are what stand out.

Lance showed what a fighter he is when he jumped back in the car with broken wrists and a broken toe. The heart it took to do that lifted everyone and got us going in a really positive frame of mind. Lance hasn't had a lot of luck this year: aside from his broken bones, a few things have gone against him that really weren't his fault. The championship table tells a story, but inside the team we know what really happens.

And with Fernando in Monaco, it wasn't the performance on track, it was the commitment, the desire, the total focus. He knew he had a shot and the approach, the dedication. I've never seen anything like it.

Has Fernando lived up to your expectations? When the team signed him, you called him a 'racing machine'.

He's exceeded my expectations – and I had very high expectations. It's not what he does on track – that I expected – but it's the way he has integrated into the team. He's been exactly what we needed him to be: constructive when you have to be constructive; challenging when you have to be challenging. Even critical when being critical is what will move us forward. Understanding that balance is more difficult than people perhaps credit.

The drivers jump out of the car, they're full of adrenaline and a microphone is shoved in their face. They talk to the media; they do their debriefs and it's difficult to always hit the right notes in those circumstances. In fact, saying the right thing is the exception rather than the norm. It's a tough thing to do. That's why I do not like to give interviews straight after a qualifying session or the race. I want to walk away for a bit and gather my thoughts. I don't envy the drivers.

Fernando is fantastic at that stuff. When he sends analysis, it's always positive, never a bad word: it's what he's discovered, what he feels, what worked well, what he'd like to try next. I'm not going to make a prediction about his 33rd victory, but we are incredibly determined to do everything we can to make it happen.

Away from the track, it's been a season of change for the team, with the first part of the new AMR Technology Campus opening. When will the advantages of that start to make themselves felt?

We're already gaining from it. We saw it when we were flat-out between the Hungarian and Belgian Grands Prix to rework parts and make changes to the car ahead of Spa. You could physically see it helping us work faster and be more efficient. Just looking out at the design office, there were people talking to each other, discussing the issues, looking at each other's monitors. These people would previously have been in different offices, and different buildings.

It's not a digital process: you can't chart progress from today to tomorrow, but you can see it happening. Obviously, the new campus isn't finished, we don't have things like the wind tunnel and new simulator yet, but when all this comes on stream, it's really going to help us take another step forward. We've made great strides forward, but we're still relatively early on in our journey and there's much more to come.

Are you feeling a sense that the team is changing?

Things are happening. Yes, we've taken a step forward on the track this year, and yes, we've begun moving into our new campus but there's a lot going on beyond that.

We've announced our works power unit deal with Honda for 2026 which is massive for the future and means we will be able to exploit every technical area of the car. We've joined forces with nine new partners this season, which is a lot! We're making a mark off the track as well as on it: progressing our environmental, social and corporate governance agenda with initiatives designed to ensure we have a positive impact in the places where we work and race.

Our team is growing with a lot of talented people starting, and more to come, which is strengthening the excellent core we already have. And our fan base is growing too: all the metrics show a growing fan base; there's more and more green at the circuits; the city events we've been doing have been rammed; our social media presence has exploded, and all these things feed off each other.

The team is in a very interesting period right now, it's not something anyone is going to experience very often in their career, and it's a privilege to be a part of it. There is so much happening and perhaps we don't recognise it enough. I've been telling everyone in the team that this is a time they'll remember for the rest of their lives because this is the start of something special. I am happy to be part of it and look forward to what is coming next.

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basically confirming the front wing change

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Intriguing
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AR3-GP wrote:
31 Jul 2023, 23:58
issey wrote:
31 Jul 2023, 23:32
Here is the interview from the guy that tweeted this with the theory of the loophole.
Now tell me there isn’t something suspicious going on
Where there's smoke, there's a fire...

Could it just be as simple as front wing flexing? Let's not beat around the bush, they hired a bunch of adrian newey disciples :lol:

They were very strong in the low speed, and usually a strong front wing load is required for this.
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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Aug 2023, 20:20
AR3-GP wrote:
31 Jul 2023, 23:58
issey wrote:
31 Jul 2023, 23:32
Here is the interview from the guy that tweeted this with the theory of the loophole.
Now tell me there isn’t something suspicious going on
Where there's smoke, there's a fire...

Could it just be as simple as front wing flexing? Let's not beat around the bush, they hired a bunch of adrian newey disciples :lol:

They were very strong in the low speed, and usually a strong front wing load is required for this.
:mrgreen:
Everyone's front wing flexs. Can't be that.

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diffuser wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 00:26
AR3-GP wrote:
06 Aug 2023, 20:20
AR3-GP wrote:
31 Jul 2023, 23:58


Where there's smoke, there's a fire...

Could it just be as simple as front wing flexing? Let's not beat around the bush, they hired a bunch of adrian newey disciples :lol:

They were very strong in the low speed, and usually a strong front wing load is required for this.
:mrgreen:
Everyone's front wing flexs. Can't be that.
There’s different degrees of flexing. It could be not question of flaps, but of the main plane mounting pylons and or the end plates
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 01:36
diffuser wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 00:26
AR3-GP wrote:
06 Aug 2023, 20:20


:mrgreen:
Everyone's front wing flexs. Can't be that.
There’s different degrees of flexing. It could be not question of flaps, but of the main plane mounting pylons and or the end plates
There was a major change to thier front wing design direction, though. If that's related to some FIA prohibition, who knows.
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diffuser wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 01:41
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 01:36
diffuser wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 00:26


Everyone's front wing flexs. Can't be that.
There’s different degrees of flexing. It could be not question of flaps, but of the main plane mounting pylons and or the end plates
There was a major change to thier front wing design direction, though.
Which could be in response to having to work the wing in a different way if a loophole was closed.
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More fuel for the fire....
According to Red Bull technical director Pierre Waché, however, in this new ground effect era it is not the front wing that makes the difference when it comes to analyzing where you can actually gain so much in terms of performance. "Our nose is attached to the second of the flaps, we are the only team to do it – said Pierre Waché in an interview with the sports newspaper French L'Equipe – the front wing is not a component that guarantees a direct gain in performance, but allows us to direct the air flow towards the bottom of the car. The regulations limit us enormously, teams like Aston Martin and Mercedes are playing with deflection, but the gain is marginal: we are talking about a tenth, no more."
https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... ton-martin

Perhaps someone with an understanding of italian could clarify the usage of "deflection" here, if that is the correct translation.
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 23:49
More fuel for the fire....
According to Red Bull technical director Pierre Waché, however, in this new ground effect era it is not the front wing that makes the difference when it comes to analyzing where you can actually gain so much in terms of performance. "Our nose is attached to the second of the flaps, we are the only team to do it – said Pierre Waché in an interview with the sports newspaper French L'Equipe – the front wing is not a component that guarantees a direct gain in performance, but allows us to direct the air flow towards the bottom of the car. The regulations limit us enormously, teams like Aston Martin and Mercedes are playing with deflection, but the gain is marginal: we are talking about a tenth, no more."
https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... ton-martin

Perhaps someone with an understanding of italian could clarify the usage of "deflection" here, if that is the correct translation.
Deflection of air from the interior would be outwash.

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diffuser wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 02:09
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 23:49
More fuel for the fire....
According to Red Bull technical director Pierre Waché, however, in this new ground effect era it is not the front wing that makes the difference when it comes to analyzing where you can actually gain so much in terms of performance. "Our nose is attached to the second of the flaps, we are the only team to do it – said Pierre Waché in an interview with the sports newspaper French L'Equipe – the front wing is not a component that guarantees a direct gain in performance, but allows us to direct the air flow towards the bottom of the car. The regulations limit us enormously, teams like Aston Martin and Mercedes are playing with deflection, but the gain is marginal: we are talking about a tenth, no more."
https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... ton-martin

Perhaps someone with an understanding of italian could clarify the usage of "deflection" here, if that is the correct translation.
Deflection of air from the interior would be outwash.
the boring interpretation, as I also suspected :lol:
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/aston ... /10505585/
It is understood earlier this season the FIA ramped up its analysis of various designs and expressed some unease about the construction of several front wings which it suspected could be flexing more than it felt was necessary.
Seems that autosport are reporting on this with some degree of certainty & not pulling punches with their selection of language.

Feeling like this is likely now :shock:

If anyone remembers some analysis that was done here (I forget by whom sorry) last season then a few races into 2022 Ferrari's front wing flex decreased a lot too. Could be something that FIA look at at the start of each year?

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organic wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 10:42
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/aston ... /10505585/
It is understood earlier this season the FIA ramped up its analysis of various designs and expressed some unease about the construction of several front wings which it suspected could be flexing more than it felt was necessary.
Seems that autosport are reporting on this with some degree of certainty & not pulling punches with their selection of language.

Feeling like this is likely now :shock:

If anyone remembers some analysis that was done here (I forget by whom sorry) last season then a few races into 2022 Ferrari's front wing flex decreased a lot too. Could be something that FIA look at at the start of each year?
That quote from autosport kills me: 'flexing more than it felt was necessary'. It's either flexing within the limits or not, that's why there are limits and tests, they aren't feelings or ideas.

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emp wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 12:26
organic wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 10:42
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/aston ... /10505585/
It is understood earlier this season the FIA ramped up its analysis of various designs and expressed some unease about the construction of several front wings which it suspected could be flexing more than it felt was necessary.
Seems that autosport are reporting on this with some degree of certainty & not pulling punches with their selection of language.

Feeling like this is likely now :shock:

If anyone remembers some analysis that was done here (I forget by whom sorry) last season then a few races into 2022 Ferrari's front wing flex decreased a lot too. Could be something that FIA look at at the start of each year?
That quote from autosport kills me: 'flexing more than it felt was necessary'. It's either flexing within the limits or not, that's why there are limits and tests, they aren't feelings or ideas.
Spirit of the rules was already invoked in 2021 Re: flexible bodywork rules when the rear-wing flexibility tests were changed midseason so there is unfortunately already precedent to do this based on the FIA's whim