That's great news.Wouter wrote: ↑21 Aug 2023, 20:31.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Aug 2023, 20:23I sometimes wonder if the people responsible for organising the events do a rubbish job merely to get some controversy
and thus media interest. The equivalent of click bait, one might say.
There has been a lot of publicity in the Netherlands in recent days about bringing flares. It has often been in the news that it is forbidden to bring flares and this will be repeated in the coming days, according to the media in the Netherlands.
When was the last great (or even good) Ham wet performance? 2020? Literally last wet race he ruined someone else's race because he mishandled his car in the conditions...
I am wondering whether this track is an outlier in terms of limitations. The chart indicates that it is primarily rear limited (if I am reading it correctly!?), but also heavily left limited - presumably because of higher speed right-hand turns.
I agree with this and your predictions redbul should win Mercedes and McLaren will be in no mans land behind redbull but ahead of Aston and Ferrari if it’s a wet quali/race I may expect it to swing more in McLarens favour (good tyre warm up/strong in highspeed) as much I’d love for a challenge at the front the only thing that can stop redbull is themselves at this point, they’ve done an incredible job with these new rulesorganic wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 05:30When was the last great (or even good) Ham wet performance? 2020? Literally last wet race he ruined someone else's race because he mishandled his car in the conditions...
Hamilton was one of the greatest wet weather drivers ever - many performances over the years speak for that. Whether he still is, I'm not so sure; I think this part of his skillset has declined a lot. There are just too many instances in the last few years of blunders in the wet to ignore
I think there's a component of age in wet weather ability. The young guns don't have as much consideration of risk and of course risk can gain/lose you a lot of time in the wet. Norris Spa '21 quali springs to mind. Recently Max has talked about how he probably wouldn't attempt his overtake on Rosberg @ T3 if it was now, saying with hindsight he took too many risks in his early F1 years. I think that risk-taking nature probably decreases the more years you spend in F1 - every race becomes less and less significant in context of your entire career. Why risk your life for another pole etc
Anyway... back to the topic of the race:
At Zandvoort - a track with a fair bit of laptime to be gained in slow speed & a front-limited circuit - I expect Merc to be very strong. McLaren strong again just by default as they have a great car. I think it's likely to be RB - - - - - Merc/McLaren - - Ferrari/AMR. Ferrari have been stronger on rear-limited tracks with lower downforce all year relative to other teams & Merc have been stronger at front-limited tracks and their recent front wing upgrade has made them very competitive in slow speed (class of the field at Silverstone & Hungary in slow speed). Of course that's simplistic but just my guess
As for AMR I'm skeptical that they'll be able to fix all their woes with one fell swoop. Probably won't get everything dialled in on the first weekend anyhow
No idea where you have seen that picture. Not on the DutchGP or cm.com site I got confronted with such a message. Only when you check the house rules. And yes, for me that makes sense, but I suspect a group of people will totally miss that.
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They aren't designed or intended to be used in groups of people - they're a device for attracting help in emergency situations. Even the products for sale for non-emergency use tell you to avoid inhaling the smoke, not to use them crowded areas, etc..
Then it's fairly obvious that using such things in crowds is a really stupid and thoughtless thing to do.Inhalation: Excessive inhalation of the smoke produced may cause respiratory irritation and difficulty breathing. Remove victim to fresh air, loosen clothing around airway, keep warm and rest. Seek medical advice/attention if symptoms persist.
In addition to this: the circuit is situated within a Nature2000 area with strict preservations laws. There were intense legal battles for the F1 permit (nitrogen deposition limits are quite an issue in The Netherlands). I suspect that the environmental impact of the flares (which could be relevant) was neglected in all environmental studies. So if there is wide use of flares by the audience, the circuit may face legal actions by environmental groups or the authorities. Another reason to (strictly) ban the flares.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 12:08They aren't designed or intended to be used in groups of people - they're a device for attracting help in emergency situations. Even the products for sale for non-emergency use tell you to avoid inhaling the smoke, not to use them crowded areas, etc..
When one sees safety warnings such as this:Then it's fairly obvious that using such things in crowds is a really stupid and thoughtless thing to do.Inhalation: Excessive inhalation of the smoke produced may cause respiratory irritation and difficulty breathing. Remove victim to fresh air, loosen clothing around airway, keep warm and rest. Seek medical advice/attention if symptoms persist.