Mercedes W14

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Interesting...

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I have noticed how compared to Red Bull and other teams that are using the beam wing to enlarge the diffuser, Mercedes appear to be going a different route. The roof of their diffuser is quite flat, rather than having a late expansion ratio, where its smaller a bit further inboard.
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SiLo wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:47
I have noticed how compared to Red Bull and other teams that are using the beam wing to enlarge the diffuser, Mercedes appear to be going a different route. The roof of their diffuser is quite flat, rather than having a late expansion ratio, where its smaller a bit further inboard.
Could this be the reason they lack the rear end?

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SiLo wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 14:47
I have noticed how compared to Red Bull and other teams that are using the beam wing to enlarge the diffuser, Mercedes appear to be going a different route. The roof of their diffuser is quite flat, rather than having a late expansion ratio, where its smaller a bit further inboard.
In theory….
They are being very aggressive with the diffuser (as was common in the old regulation set).
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Looks like some minor mods to the sidepod


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The fiddly bits under the mirror are gone again.
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AR3-GP wrote:
31 Aug 2023, 19:17
The fiddly bits under the mirror are gone again.
It seems they only appear at high dwf circuits

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Those sidepods look narrower and more vertical along the side

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I thought so as well. Maybe it's just the angle but it seems slightly different if you compare the 2 photos below carefully

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Single element beam wing on the W14

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I don't know why. Maybe I haven't been paying attention or something but the sidepod inlets look a bit strange in these pics.

Are they the same?

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Thats a very interesting look at some of the changes that they've moved onto their car.

The shift in front suspension, aero treatment of suspension arms as conditioning vanes to floor and pod geometry, the strakes at floor entrance and treatment of the first strake from chassis centre and its extension forward.

That first (nearest to centre of car) strake appears to hold some considerable influence on performance of diffuser characteristics with many team making obvious shift here. Looks like it may hold greater primary influence over accumulation curve of floor download, increase in input flow could flatten/cap that curve response to prevent rear end characteristics going into porpoising territory.

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Rear shot of the Single element BW