2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[jambuka]

Missed both FP1 & FP2. What happened? Dead last ? There were no upgrades so how did we go back ?

[Xyz22]

Missed both FP1 & FP2. What happened? Dead last ? There were no upgrades so how did we go back ?

No last but not looking good. We didn't go back. The car is just bad in these situations.



Poor Robert lol

[AR3-GP]

Missed both FP1 & FP2. What happened? Dead last ? There were no upgrades so how did we go back ?

Aston, Merc, Mclaren all have upgrades.

Balance is probably wrong today as well.

Monza should be great, as the car is very efficient in low downforce. Probably in for some pain this weekend however.

[Xyz22]

How could they not realize they were developing such a terrible car? Crazy.

[Vanja #66]

https://www.racefans.net/2023/08/25/fer ... eaknesses/

Ferrari’s head of chassis development does not share driver Carlos Sainz Jnr’s view that the team do not understand the limitations of their car.

It's been some time since Sainz started giving statements that put down the team, borderline ridiculing Scuderia with fairly incorrect assessments. This can only mean he does not intend to continue with the team. The only fair thing to do would be to leave at the end of this year already.

[AR3-GP]

https://www.racefans.net/2023/08/25/fer ... eaknesses/

Ferrari’s head of chassis development does not share driver Carlos Sainz Jnr’s view that the team do not understand the limitations of their car.

It's been some time since Sainz started giving statements that put down the team, borderline ridiculing Scuderia with fairly incorrect assessments. This can only mean he does not intend to continue with the team. The only fair thing to do would be to leave at the end of this year already.

You wish!

[dialtone]

https://www.racefans.net/2023/08/25/fer ... eaknesses/

Ferrari’s head of chassis development does not share driver Carlos Sainz Jnr’s view that the team do not understand the limitations of their car.

It's been some time since Sainz started giving statements that put down the team, borderline ridiculing Scuderia with fairly incorrect assessments. This can only mean he does not intend to continue with the team. The only fair thing to do would be to leave at the end of this year already.

That sounds like a frustrated driver.

[Xyz22]

Federico Albano is really the reference in the world for public telemetry analysis. I won't link the article as it's written in italian but he has made improvements to his tools and now is capable of providing a better analysis of the race pace.

[gordonthegun]

https://www.racefans.net/2023/08/25/fer ... eaknesses/

Ferrari’s head of chassis development does not share driver Carlos Sainz Jnr’s view that the team do not understand the limitations of their car.

It's been some time since Sainz started giving statements that put down the team, borderline ridiculing Scuderia with fairly incorrect assessments. This can only mean he does not intend to continue with the team. The only fair thing to do would be to leave at the end of this year already.

It is difficult to comment on Sainz's statements.
The car is definitely a flop that comes from last year flop.
Because, we have to admit, in 2022 the car was fast only at the beginning of the season, when it could generate great DF only with significant porpoising and in fact it slowed down immediately after the TD39.
So, making an evolution of the 2022 car in 2023 already means that maybe something was not understood so well.
Undoubtedly, there is some truth in what Sainz says.
Then, whether it's convenient to say it or whether he says it because he knows he won't be confirmed is another matter.

[KimiRai]

It's been some time since Sainz started giving statements that put down the team, borderline ridiculing Scuderia with fairly incorrect assessments. This can only mean he does not intend to continue with the team. The only fair thing to do would be to leave at the end of this year already.

While one of your own says this right before your post...

How could they not realize they were developing such a terrible car? Crazy.

Your anti sainz agenda is too aggressive, most of us have our preferences and that's fine but yours is too obvious day after day. Whether or not he should have said it is a different topic, but I think he may have a point. The rookie tested the car and it was crap. I dont think Sainz is saying "fairly incorrect statements".

[FDD]

https://www.racefans.net/2023/08/25/fer ... eaknesses/

Ferrari’s head of chassis development does not share driver Carlos Sainz Jnr’s view that the team do not understand the limitations of their car.

It's been some time since Sainz started giving statements that put down the team, borderline ridiculing Scuderia with fairly incorrect assessments. This can only mean he does not intend to continue with the team. The only fair thing to do would be to leave at the end of this year already.

No, you are wrong.
The only fair thing is Ferrari to fire him.

[scuderiabrandon]

The car has been weak where we expected it to be weak. If we can understand the limitations of our package I'm sure the engineeers do aswell. All the performances have been as expected with Hungary being the exception for what ever reason.

So in that sense I also disagree with Sainz that they don't understand their package, it is just working around, optimising setups around these inherit conceptual flaws aren't as easy as he may think hence the recent statements by Vasseur/Cardile that in '24 it will be a entirely new car. In order to make such statements you need an understanding of what you are doing wrong as a bare minimum.

Cardile: "It’s crystal clear what we did wrong with the car, what the weaknesses are. It’s clear, it’s not a matter of understanding what we should do. Now for the future it’s a matter of delivering a good product which will cope with the targets we have."

We all know the car is shite, but thats not what Vanja was referring to, it is Sainz' contradicting statements to that of our now Technical Director. It leaves a bit of a bad taste.

[CaribouBread]

Giuliano Duchessa reporting (?) possible engine changes for the drivers.

"In all likelihood, an engine change is anticipated for #Leclerc (and perhaps also for #Sainz )"

[organic]

Seems like the performance is so bad that they will bin the weekend off?

[Cs98]

Seems like the performance is so bad that they will bin the weekend off?

Would be foolish in a wet weekend. And I don't understand why they insist on running the lower DF wing.