2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 25 - 27

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9 wins in a row and will likely get more. But I can't help but feel that the law of averages will catch up to RBR and Max sooner rather than later. What they're doing now is incredible, but I feel that when it starts going bad it may be really bad for a while.

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ringo wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:28
Hamilton sucks on the wet doesnt he? :mrgreen:
Great race by Alonso!

Not to mention Gasly. His first podium with Alpine I beleive.
What are you talking about..?

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Hammerfist wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:57
9 wins in a row and will likely get more. But I can't help but feel that the law of averages will catch up to RBR and Max sooner rather than later. What they're doing now is incredible, but I feel that when it starts going bad it may be really bad for a while.
You can see that happening with the current Mercedes team. Who knows.

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Spoutnik wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:59
ringo wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:28
Hamilton sucks on the wet doesnt he? :mrgreen:
Great race by Alonso!

Not to mention Gasly. His first podium with Alpine I beleive.
What are you talking about..?
I believe they're referring to how I've said Hamilton has not had many great performances in the wet recently before the weekend, so wouldn't necessarily be favoured if it rains. Then Hamilton went out in Q2 in such conditions - by his admission due to being too slow - and held position for a few laps at the end of the race today. So I guess that apparently refutes my opinion :lol:

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:49
You know the season is boring when a race just ended and nobody is arguing about anything.

To all concerned, your favourite driver is not very good and did x thing wrong today.

Also, your favourite team has questionable leadership and needs to do better/worse to even the field.

Also, the race director should've/shouldn't have done x thing to affect the race in a way that pleases me.
What are you talking about, don't you see how good debate about anthem is. :lol:

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Winning in front of your home crowd by a mere 3 seconds, not one of Max’ best performances, and missing the fastest lap is rather disappointing as well. Great job by Albon in the Williams. Gasly and Alonso had some great performances as well
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wesley123 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:12
Winning in front of your home crowd by a mere 3 seconds, not one of Max’ best performances, and missing the fastest lap is rather disappointing as well. Great job by Albon in the Williams. Gasly and Alonso had some great performances as well
Did you watch the race at all? Lmfao.

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napoleon1981 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:13
wesley123 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:12
Winning in front of your home crowd by a mere 3 seconds, not one of Max’ best performances, and missing the fastest lap is rather disappointing as well. Great job by Albon in the Williams. Gasly and Alonso had some great performances as well
Did you watch the race at all? Lmfao.
Perhaps our standards are different, but I would consider 8th pretty impressive in a Williams. The same goes for Gasly in the Alpine and Alonso in the Aston Martin.
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wesley123 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:21
napoleon1981 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:13
wesley123 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:12
Winning in front of your home crowd by a mere 3 seconds, not one of Max’ best performances, and missing the fastest lap is rather disappointing as well. Great job by Albon in the Williams. Gasly and Alonso had some great performances as well
Did you watch the race at all? Lmfao.
Perhaps our standards are different, but I would consider 8th pretty impressive in a Williams. The same goes for Gasly in the Alpine and Alonso in the Aston Martin.
I was more interested by your mere 3 second statement. How much should have Max won by when there was a red flag in lap 65 out of 72. You expected him to win by 30 seconds in ~5 laps?

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wesley123 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:12
Winning in front of your home crowd by a mere 3 seconds, not one of Max’ best performances, and missing the fastest lap is rather disappointing as well. Great job by Albon in the Williams. Gasly and Alonso had some great performances as well
Tell me you didn't watch the race without telling me you didn't watch the race.... :lol:
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I guess he missed the safety car restart and the soaked track.
Max still left Alonso in his wake. He was not head and shoulders beyond Alonso while being chased, you could see there was some amount of panick, but he was still in control and the car was riding beautifully.
Monza is going to be even more one sided.
Redbull is king under braking and efficiency and now they have a top speed avantage.
Ferrari need to bring out the Monza special engine. They have nothing go lose.
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organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:02
Spoutnik wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:59
ringo wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:28
Hamilton sucks on the wet doesnt he? :mrgreen:
Great race by Alonso!

Not to mention Gasly. His first podium with Alpine I beleive.
What are you talking about..?
I believe they're referring to how I've said Hamilton has not had many great performances in the wet recently before the weekend, so wouldn't necessarily be favoured if it rains. Then Hamilton went out in Q2 in such conditions - by his admission due to being too slow - and held position for a few laps at the end of the race today. So I guess that apparently refutes my opinion :lol:
Yes your takes on past events are quite entertaining.
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ringo wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:37
organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 18:02
Spoutnik wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:59


What are you talking about..?
I believe they're referring to how I've said Hamilton has not had many great performances in the wet recently before the weekend, so wouldn't necessarily be favoured if it rains. Then Hamilton went out in Q2 in such conditions - by his admission due to being too slow - and held position for a few laps at the end of the race today. So I guess that apparently refutes my opinion :lol:
Yes your takes on past events are quite entertaining.
So Hamilton wasn't slow in the wet in Q2 yesterday? Or you just prefer to cherry pick performances that suit your narratives?

As far as I remember, today when the rain happened Lewis didn't make a great call (to box on lap 1 or even lap 2), or even after the restart at the end he didn't gain any positions.. What was so good this weekend that refutes my opinion

Now that I pin you down with a question you don't like to answer, you'll probably give a vague reply that answers nothing, or nor reply at all.. as is typical of conversations with you

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I think Mercedes had a very good car this weekend and they left an enormous amount of points on the table. Toto felt the same way. Russell is too eager, Hamilton let’s the race come his way, that did not really happen today. Mclaren also wasted it, but perhaps they didn’t have the race car. Alo was great, Williams also made the wrong call, still p8. Gasly was there to collect the points. Perez was very lucky to end 4th.

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Red Bull not reading the room at all. Please don't bring/use flares.

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The arrogance of Marko, Horner, et al.

Unbelievable.
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