2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

[dialtone]

Rule shouldn't be applied to inlaps, was a dumb idea to have that be on cooldowns or inlaps.

How have you come to this conclusion. The rule is in place for this exact reason, in addition to excessive slowing on warmup laps.

Stop driving slow! Simple. The rule is the same for everyone.

I had zero expectations you would be reasonable, but I'm disappointed anyway. "excessive slowing" was caused by blue flags, not by Ferrari doing tricky stuff. Their conduct was the same as all other teams.

[PlatinumZealot]

Perez is nowhere. Four tenths down in the same is just shameful. I only see him making progress in the tail end of the stints where the tyre life and a more stable car will help him.

Max now, as usual will play it safe in the first few laps and let the race come to him. Barring safety cars it's an easy win for him again.

Russell I get the feeling has a lower downforce setup. He and Albon. They will burn out their tyres the end of the stints.

Ferrari will also struggle. In fact I can't even predict the podium.

[AR3-GP]

Rule shouldn't be applied to inlaps, was a dumb idea to have that be on cooldowns or inlaps.

How have you come to this conclusion. The rule is in place for this exact reason, in addition to excessive slowing on warmup laps.

Stop driving slow! Simple. The rule is the same for everyone.

I had zero expectations you would be reasonable, but I'm disappointed anyway. "excessive slowing" was caused by blue flags, not by Ferrari doing tricky stuff. Their conduct was the same as all other teams.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Ferrari should be punished since they had a reasonable defense (the drivers were moving offline) and apparently using Ferrari and penalty in the same sentence is a dangerous proposition...

I'm saying the rule should otherwise be enforced, and exceptions granted as needed.

[Sieper]

Perez is nowhere. Four tenths down in the same is just shameful. I only see him making progress in the tail end of the stints where the tyre life and a more stable car will help him.

Max now, as usual will play it safe in the first few laps and let the race come to him. Barring safety cars it's an easy win for him again.

Russell I get the feeling has a lower downforce setup. He and Albon. They will burn out their tyres the end of the stints.

Ferrari will also struggle. In fact I can't even predict the podium.

Vasseur does not agree. But I hope you are right. And I agree it is a bit hard to say how much the deg will come in to play and who will suffer it.

[Gillian]

Mega tight quali.

More impressive max only being 0.013 behind Sainz whilst he’s running a barn door parachute wing Vs a track specific Ferrari wing.

I expect Carlos will be a sitting duck tomorrow behind max.

The ferraris are moving around in the corners. The redbull is sure footed. Max will pass sainz. And if he has a bad start and loses out to leclerc, he will get it back.
Perez himself can also pull a suprised ans get P2.
Apparently perez is using an old engine. But not an excuse.

Perez will win by 20s ahead of max who's 20s ahead of ferraris. That's how much better RB is but ferrari drivers doing miracles.

[organic]

Russell I get the feeling has a lower downforce setup. He and Albon. They will burn out their tyres the end of the stints.

I was under the impression Russell had the lower downforce setup, at least going by Fp3

Vasseur does not agree. But I hope you are right. And I agree it is a bit hard to say how much the deg will come in to play and who will suffer it.

Vasseur says what ?

[dialtone]

How have you come to this conclusion. The rule is in place for this exact reason, in addition to excessive slowing on warmup laps.

Stop driving slow! Simple. The rule is the same for everyone.

I had zero expectations you would be reasonable, but I'm disappointed anyway. "excessive slowing" was caused by blue flags, not by Ferrari doing tricky stuff. Their conduct was the same as all other teams.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Ferrari should be punished since they had a reasonable defense (the drivers were moving offline) and apparently using Ferrari and penalty in the same sentence is a dangerous proposition...

I'm saying the rule should otherwise be enforced, and exceptions granted as needed.

That's what happened here, exception was granted with due cause (proof presented by Ferrari of course). The rule was successful as nobody played trickery for track position in quali, did exactly what it was supposed to do.

[organic]

[Sieper]

Russell I get the feeling has a lower downforce setup. He and Albon. They will burn out their tyres the end of the stints.

I was under the impression Russell had the lower downforce setup, at least going by Fp3

Vasseur does not agree. But I hope you are right. And I agree it is a bit hard to say how much the deg will come in to play and who will suffer it.

Vasseur says what ?

He thinks they will be quick tomorrow as well.

[AR3-GP]

Russell I get the feeling has a lower downforce setup. He and Albon. They will burn out their tyres the end of the stints.

I was under the impression Russell had the lower downforce setup, at least going by Fp3

Vasseur does not agree. But I hope you are right. And I agree it is a bit hard to say how much the deg will come in to play and who will suffer it.

Vasseur says what ?

He thinks they will be quick tomorrow as well.

He is the team principal of Ferrari in Monza. He will say they can win regardless of reality.

[Cs98]

Perez is nowhere. Four tenths down in the same is just shameful. I only see him making progress in the tail end of the stints where the tyre life and a more stable car will help him.

Max now, as usual will play it safe in the first few laps and let the race come to him. Barring safety cars it's an easy win for him again.

Russell I get the feeling has a lower downforce setup. He and Albon. They will burn out their tyres the end of the stints.

Ferrari will also struggle. In fact I can't even predict the podium.

Russell and Hamilton were running identical DF judging by their top speeds that matched perfectly.

[Sofa King]

Is a one stopper still possible/optimal tomorrow with temps a few degrees higher than last year and tires one compound softer? Prior to the late safety car, most front runners were on a one stopper. The soft C4 were good for 20-25 laps and the medium C3 were good for 30-35 laps. With the tires this year having lower deg than last year, I think a one stopper medium c4 followed by a hard C5 should be optimal. Can Williams and Ferrari manage their tire wear? I doubt it, but we’ll see

[Sieper]

I was under the impression Russell had the lower downforce setup, at least going by Fp3



Vasseur says what ?

He thinks they will be quick tomorrow as well.

He is the team principal of Ferrari in Monza. He will say they can win regardless of reality.

Maybe, or even likely, but that is not very sensible. Then say something like it will be hard, or even just hard to say.

[organic]

Charles p1 and max p2 would make things more interesting than what we have, if ferrari really do have the pace.

[Silent Storm]

Apparently Russell gave Hamilton a tow so if Hamilton's top speed is similar to Russell he should be running High downforce wing... Weird how Hamilton couldn't gain any time back in corners. It will be interesting what his excuse will be this time