2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Vanja #66]

Great result from both drivers, Ferrari needs to do everything to get a 1-2 finish. Too bad the car is so twitchy and has such a weak front end, otherwise Leclerc would always shave off another 2-3 tenths in Q and they'd lock out the front row today.

In any case, just get it done tomorrow and get a win. It would be nice if Sainz would finally win on merrit.

[Xyz22]

I like Leclerc and find him to generally be the better driver in all conditions - a little bit faster than Carlos in quali but with a bigger margin generally in the race - so I’m usually more comfortable and happy if the driver I feel is generally stronger is in the lead position.

But you’ve got to say - irrespective of car characteristics or whatever - this is the best Sainz has driven in his Ferrari career and he’s hit a run of form. If the car last year was more suited to Leclerc (and Sainz spoke many times about having difficulty adapting) then I don’t begrudge it going the other way this year. What’s important is that a Ferrari is in the lead and on the top step of the podium and so if that’s him, then great.

As I say, I wouldn’t be surprised if Charles has the better race pace - and I can see a 2019 strategy option being the best way to secure the win and/or a 1-2, so I hope Ferrari don’t do anything stupid and play the team game - but hats off to Carlos for the last two weeks’ quali performance.

I wouldn't if the car was competitive to win the WDC.

Anyway, both drivers did well. Sainz did a fantastic lap and Leclerc despite struggling a lot is only 0.07s behind.

Look at where Lewis is compared to Russell today.

[AR3-GP]

Keep in mind the SF90 also took pole in Japan. So could be another great weekend ahead too. The SF23 is not that bad of a car. Bad cars don't take pole anywhere nevermind back to back races.

[Xyz22]

Keep in mind the SF90 also took pole in Japan. So could be another great weekend ahead too. The SF23 is not that bad of a car. Bad cars don't take pole anywhere nevermind back to back races.

The SF 23 is a disaster of a car when you factor in the expectations. On average, over 0.6s slower than RB per lap. In Monza the difference was once again absolutely embarrassing.

The SF 90 had similar issues but also different strengths. It was dominant in the straights (1s quicker in the first sector in SPA) and was really good in high speed corners.

[scuderiabrandon]

Keep in mind the SF90 also took pole in Japan. So could be another great weekend ahead too. The SF23 is not that bad of a car. Bad cars don't take pole anywhere nevermind back to back races.

The SF 23 is a disaster of a car when you factor in the expectations. On average, over 0.6s slower than RB per lap. In Monza the difference was once again absolutely embarrassing.

The SF 90 had similar issues but also different strengths. It was dominant in the straights (1s quicker in the first sector in SPA) and was really good in high speed corners.

Sector 1 will be a nightmare for sure. The rest of the circuit should be competitive with RB.

I'm expecting the last upgrade package for Japan, hopefully that proves a bit helpful. Qatar and COTA are back to back sprint races, they've been reluctant to bring upgrades to sprint races and I don't think it would be smart either. That obviously is if manufacturing allow it to come to Japan.


Realistically, if the concept next year is moving towards that of RB, I think a sharper front end would be a result of doing that, given what they do actually is what will happen on circuit.
Having such a blunt front end has proven more costly than beneficial this season.

Dialling back oversteer is easier than dialling in oversteer. ARB settings, Brake Bias settings and backing off FW angles can dial out oversteer without making big compromises to the overall performance. Trying to improve mid corner rotation usally requires higher rake angles, which costs floor performance, increase in flap angles, which slightly increase drag and extremely limited in how much they can do here. Understeer tends to be less kind on the front yres aswell.

The constant understeer complaints from LEC haven't stopped this season (10 months), which should prove my claims here even just a little.

[Xyz22]

Keep in mind the SF90 also took pole in Japan. So could be another great weekend ahead too. The SF23 is not that bad of a car. Bad cars don't take pole anywhere nevermind back to back races.

The SF 23 is a disaster of a car when you factor in the expectations. On average, over 0.6s slower than RB per lap. In Monza the difference was once again absolutely embarrassing.

The SF 90 had similar issues but also different strengths. It was dominant in the straights (1s quicker in the first sector in SPA) and was really good in high speed corners.

Sector 1 will be a nightmare for sure. The rest of the circuit should be competitive with RB.

I'm expecting the last upgrade package for Japan, hopefully that proves a bit helpful. Qatar and COTA are back to back sprint races, they've been reluctant to bring upgrades to sprint races and I don;t think it would be smart either. That obviously is if manufacturing allow it to come to Japan.

SF 23 has been consistently slower than the F1 75 in quick high speed change of directions for the entire year. Spoon corner could be critical as well, considering how long it is.

[scuderiabrandon]

The SF 23 is a disaster of a car when you factor in the expectations. On average, over 0.6s slower than RB per lap. In Monza the difference was once again absolutely embarrassing.

The SF 90 had similar issues but also different strengths. It was dominant in the straights (1s quicker in the first sector in SPA) and was really good in high speed corners.

Sector 1 will be a nightmare for sure. The rest of the circuit should be competitive with RB.

I'm expecting the last upgrade package for Japan, hopefully that proves a bit helpful. Qatar and COTA are back to back sprint races, they've been reluctant to bring upgrades to sprint races and I don;t think it would be smart either. That obviously is if manufacturing allow it to come to Japan.

SF 23 has been consistently slower than the F1 75 in quick high speed change of directions for the entire year. Spoon corner could be critical as well, considering how long it is.

We were good in copse, we should be good through 130R. Short radius corner.

[Xyz22]

Sector 1 will be a nightmare for sure. The rest of the circuit should be competitive with RB.

I'm expecting the last upgrade package for Japan, hopefully that proves a bit helpful. Qatar and COTA are back to back sprint races, they've been reluctant to bring upgrades to sprint races and I don;t think it would be smart either. That obviously is if manufacturing allow it to come to Japan.

SF 23 has been consistently slower than the F1 75 in quick high speed change of directions for the entire year. Spoon corner could be critical as well, considering how long it is.

We were good in copse, we should be could in 130R. Short radius corner.

130R is power limited even in race trim, no?

[scuderiabrandon]

SF 23 has been consistently slower than the F1 75 in quick high speed change of directions for the entire year. Spoon corner could be critical as well, considering how long it is.

We were good in copse, we should be could in 130R. Short radius corner.

130R is power limited even in race trim, no?

It's flat in qualy and at the end of a long straight so I would imagine so yes.

[Xyz22]

We were good in copse, we should be could in 130R. Short radius corner.

130R is power limited even in race trim, no?

It's flat in qualy and at the end of a long straight so I would imagine so yes.

Yeah, 130R doesn't matter these days.

I don't expect the SF 23 to fight for pole but i didn't expect RB to be so slow in Singapore, so who knows.

[scuderiabrandon]

130R is power limited even in race trim, no?

It's flat in qualy and at the end of a long straight so I would imagine so yes.

Yeah, 130R doesn't matter these days.

I don't expect the SF 23 to fight for pole but i didn't expect RB to be so slow in Singapore, so who knows.

Spoon curve will be the big trouble apart from S1. Long radius off-throttle corner, it has proven difficult for us. Obviously unless upgrades have a say in it.

[LM10]

Nice result overall and a really good lap from Sainz. Shame Leclerc isn’t really happy with how the car behaves (more understeery), otherwise we would have seen a 1-2 in qualifying like Vanja said.

I hope they avoid crashes tomorrow and manage a win. A 1-2 finish would be the icing on the cake of course. I’d hate to see another strategical disaster… I’m cautiously optimistic that we won’t.

[selvam_e2002]

it will be lets wait and watch.

[bluechris]

I really afraid Russell in the start and i don't know what both drivers can do to avoid him but not also loose their place. The guy has said literally that he prefers 5sec penalty by forcing a driver of track.

[MV8]

I really afraid Russell in the start and i don't know what both drivers can do to avoid him but not also loose their place. The guy has said literally that he prefers 5sec penalty by forcing a driver of track.

FIA should consider taking actions against this unsportsmanlike behaviour, maybe penalties should be harsher so drivers start taking the rules seriously