2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

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Did Leclerc have an off? How the hell can he finish 21 sec behind his teammate. And Max almost got him too.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:09
I'm still a bit worried that the RB19 still showed massive pace mid-race.. Erm.. But at least we know it bleeds red blood. We can kill it.
What was last 10 lap pace of Max compared to both Merc? if it was similar or thereabout then if the Ocon stop on track was a full SC then I am sure Max had a super chance of pulling this off.

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The redbull looked good. Perez had damage from lap 1 from yuki and still did a decent race. Max was overtaking a lot even without drs.
The giant is not dead. It will come back with a vengeance at suzuka.
RB19 will lap the feild there. Lol
I wonder if they will do a special honda livery again?

By the way. Good race for Ocon until his csr problem. He schooled Alonso quite well.

Poor race from the double champ. Stroll is rubbing off on him. He should leave to Audi and drive against Bottas.
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Singapore tends to throw up strange results. Both Haas in Q3 is almost as odd as both RB19 out in Q2.

I’ll be surprised if there isn’t a large return to normal service next week, I could be wrong though.

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ringo wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:19
I wonder if they will do a special honda livery again?
Maybe not. It's expensive now...

but maybe they'll do a special on the engine :lol:
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djones wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:06
napoleon1981 wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:02
Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:00


Ha, that comment aged well, eh? :lol:
Still dont see how that aged badly?
I agree it aged badly.

George setting things up and concentrating on a Saturday as always. But 9/10 has an average race at best.

Hamilton gained 5 seconds on him and would have won that race.
George binned it trying to pass Norris desperately. Hamilton wasnt even on his mind. The fact that Hamilton would have won it IF George wasnt there shows that it did the opposite of aging badly imo. George was there for the win and threw it, Hamilton never was.
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Why Hamilton was pushing so bad Russell? I don't see anyone here discussing this. To me the mistake of Russell is for a big percent because Hamilton wasn't giving to the guy that air to breath to attack on Norris. They run on different teams? For me it was huge mistake from the team and especially from Toto.

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this new track layout is exciting and brilliant race. perhaps the best so far for 2023.

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napoleon1981 wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:21
djones wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:06
napoleon1981 wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:02


Still dont see how that aged badly?
I agree it aged badly.

George setting things up and concentrating on a Saturday as always. But 9/10 has an average race at best.

Hamilton gained 5 seconds on him and would have won that race.
George binned it trying to pass Norris desperately. Hamilton wasnt even on his mind. The fact that Hamilton would have won it IF George wasnt there shows that it did the opposite of aging badly imo.
Lewis closed down a 5s gap from George after the double-stack stop. Both in free air.

George binned it. Exactly.
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bluechris wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:24
Why Hamilton was pushing so bad Russell? I don't see anyone here discussing this. To me the mistake of Russell is for a big percent because Hamilton wasn't giving to the guy that air to breath to attack on Norris. They run on different teams? For me it was huge mistake from the team and especially from Toto.
Is this a "George binning it was the fault of Toto/Hamilton"? :roll:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:25
napoleon1981 wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:21
djones wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:06


I agree it aged badly.

George setting things up and concentrating on a Saturday as always. But 9/10 has an average race at best.

Hamilton gained 5 seconds on him and would have won that race.
George binned it trying to pass Norris desperately. Hamilton wasnt even on his mind. The fact that Hamilton would have won it IF George wasnt there shows that it did the opposite of aging badly imo.
Lewis closed down a 5s gap from George after the double-stack stop. Both in free air.

George binned it. Exactly.
George had a shot for the win, and Hamilton never did. Exactly. Closing a gap on a circuit like this doesnt mean anything. Btw the 5s gap wasnt closed in free air.
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bluechris wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:24
Why Hamilton was pushing so bad Russell? I don't see anyone here discussing this. To me the mistake of Russell is for a big percent because Hamilton wasn't giving to the guy that air to breath to attack on Norris. They run on different teams? For me it was huge mistake from the team and especially from Toto.
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bluechris wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:24
Why Hamilton was pushing so bad Russell? I don't see anyone here discussing this. To me the mistake of Russell is for a big percent because Hamilton wasn't giving to the guy that air to breath to attack on Norris. They run on different teams? For me it was huge mistake from the team and especially from Toto.
Ham watched lap after lap to see that George was not capable of either passing Lando or matching his pace so he pressed because he wanted a podium.

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bluechris wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:24
Why Hamilton was pushing so bad Russell? I don't see anyone here discussing this. To me the mistake of Russell is for a big percent because Hamilton wasn't giving to the guy that air to breath to attack on Norris. They run on different teams? For me it was huge mistake from the team and especially from Toto.
That's unrelated. Russel binned it because he got mesmerized by Lando's gearbox. Tgat happens on street tracks.
Lando went too far to the right and russel being mesmerized did the same thing and just drifted into the wall. Nothing to do with Hamilton pushing him. Remember he cannot hear Hamilton and the team wont relay hamiltons feelings to him anyway.
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bluechris wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 16:24
Why Hamilton was pushing so bad Russell? I don't see anyone here discussing this. To me the mistake of Russell is for a big percent because Hamilton wasn't giving to the guy that air to breath to attack on Norris. They run on different teams? For me it was huge mistake from the team and especially from Toto.
Russell overheated his rears, Hamilton did nothing wrong or out of the ordinary. The only mistake(tiny misplacement of the wheel, big consequence in the race) was from Russell