Doping in F1

[tadzio89]

I read that WATA(World Anti-Doping Agency) is going to ban caffeine usage by drivers in 2010. What about Red Bull team and Nescafe drinks(McLaren). Do they match to prohibition?

[Dom77]

well i think last time i checked u need 8 cups of coffee to test positive

http://www.wilstar.com/caffeine.htm Do the math...LOL 8 ounce=1 cup

Caffeine
Performance enhancing effects of caffeine are found at caffeine intakes of 1-3 mg/kg (i.e. 50-200 mg of caffeine). There is no additional benefit from taking a larger caffeine dose. Larger doses are associated with greater risks of side-effects (e.g. nervousness, shakiness, anxiety, heart palpitations, flushing, headaches) and urinary caffeine concentrations > 12µg.ml-1 although this may vary between individuals. Therefore keep caffeine intakes to less than 3mg/kg body weight remembering that caffeine is found in a range of foods, beverages (e.g. energy drinks, sports drinks, tea and coffee); many sports gels and drugs.

[modbaraban]

But how about Le Mans? It takes me a few cups of coffee and liters of tea just to watch it.

[roost89]

I read that WATA(World Anti-Doping Agency) is going to ban caffeine usage by drivers in 2010. What about Red Bull team and Nescafe drinks(McLaren). Do they match to prohibition?

Can you get us some links?
I had a look on their website and I saw nothing.

It sounds a bit dubious to me though. Banning Caffeine, that means they won't be allowed a cup of tea, coffee, energy drinks, sports gels etc for over a weekend.

[Miguel]

It sounds a bit dubious to me though. Banning Caffeine, that means they won't be allowed a cup of tea, coffee, energy drinks, sports gels etc for over a weekend.

This is not exactly true. As said by Dom77, you need a threshold to test positive. It's the same with alcohol: most likely you won't be suspended if you just drank one glass of wine. Although there are some drugs that do test positive with just a trace, most of them have limits.

Oh! and by the way most pro cyclists are in a huge risk of having severe anemia... which is best treated with EPO. Which of course tests positive... and in the case of Cyclists you can test positive when you are not competing (see for example Jan Ullrich)

[jon-mullen]

I know plenty of people that are a danger on the road if they haven't had a couple cups of coffee, myself included.

Is this supposed to be aimed at keeping competition fair or keeping kids off "drugs" or what is this? It seems ridiculous to me. Next let's level the playing field by giving all the drivers lobotomies, that should even out their reaction times and skill.

[The FOZ]

WADA really went off the deep end when Dick Pound was running the show. Gestapo-like tactics, "guilty until proven innocent, and we're not interested in your proof", all that garbage. His successor is clearly keeping the tradition alive.

Do the WADA people wake up in the morning, look at themselves in the mirror and say "It's up to you, only you can win the war against Juan Valdez"

Buncha morons.

[jddh1]

But how about Le Mans? It takes me a few cups of coffee and liters of tea just to watch it.

Caffeine is not a big problem for the drivers. For the mechanics, on the other hand, it is. This is especially true if you work for Kazuki Nakajima with long hours trying to fix a broken car well after the sunset being the normalcy.

Now, if they want to catch the drivers doping they should ban alcohol. Kimi will receive an instant life-time ban. In addition, if they conduct their tests right after the podium ceremony they will catch no less than three drivers every race.

[The FOZ]

But how about Le Mans? It takes me a few cups of coffee and liters of tea just to watch it.

Now, if they want to catch the drivers doping they should ban alcohol. Kimi will receive an instant life-time ban. In addition, if they conduct their tests right after the podium ceremony they will catch no less than three drivers every race.

1. The only performance alcohol actually enhances is my dancing, anything else it's a detriment.

2. The stuff they shoot around post-race is, AFAIK, non-alcoholic.

[jddh1]

But how about Le Mans? It takes me a few cups of coffee and liters of tea just to watch it.

Now, if they want to catch the drivers doping they should ban alcohol. Kimi will receive an instant life-time ban. In addition, if they conduct their tests right after the podium ceremony they will catch no less than three drivers every race.

1. The only performance alcohol actually enhances is my dancing, anything else it's a detriment.

2. The stuff they shoot around post-race is, AFAIK, non-alcoholic.

LOL @ #1.

For #2, pretty sure champagne is alcoholic. Unless they're spraying something else I don't know about.

[The FOZ]

I distinctly recall the commentators saying it was non-alcoholic, but then again, at 7:00 in the morning, nothing I say, do, think, or hear, can be held against me anytime, anywhere.

[Miguel]

I distinctly recall the commentators saying it was non-alcoholic, but then again, at 7:00 in the morning, nothing I say, do, think, or hear, can be held against me anytime, anywhere.

They do spray a non-alcoholic beverage in Bahrain. I don't know what they will do in Doha since the straight-finish line is aligned with Mecca (Good find Ciro!), but I'm pretty sure they spray champagne everywhere else.

Oh, and by the way, alcohol doesn't only improve my dancing performances. I sing better, women look better and, after the third or fourth gintonic, they look at me.

[Belatti]

Oh, and by the way, alcohol doesn't only improve my dancing performances. I sing better, women look better and, after the third or fourth gintonic, they look at me.

I have heard that the first effect of alcohol is actually brain stimulating, Im talking about a very low dose here.

[Richard]

I distinctly recall the commentators saying it was non-alcoholic, but then again, at 7:00 in the morning, nothing I say, do, think, or hear, can be held against me anytime, anywhere.

They do spray a non-alcoholic beverage in Bahrain. I don't know what they will do in Doha since the straight-finish line is aligned with Mecca (Good find Ciro!), but I'm pretty sure they spray champagne everywhere else.

Its sparkling rose water and it just doesn't froth and foam like champagne. Once you know about it then you see that it just isn't the same in a visual sense.

[The FOZ]

Thinking about Reubens getting piss-tested today, I really wonder...

Who asked WADA to start policing Formula 1? Did the FIA actually vote and ask them to start asking their drivers to pee in a cup at a moment's notice, or did they decide that they need to keep F1 drivers off the joe on their own?

At any rate, I feel WADA should be putting their effort into Hockey, Football, Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Rugby...you know...where there's more than 18 athletes to monitor and a legitimately plausible cause for substance abuse concern.