2023 United States Grand Prix - COTA, Oct 20 - 22

[dans79]

yea, but with only one set of softs, they could be pretty vulnerable to an inoppertune safety car!

Good point

ugh, I meant to say mediums not softs!

[chrisc90]

Yep, overtake completely off track.
Even on T1 lap 1 a overtake off track should be given back.

[ringo]

You guys ars so hypocrital.
Lap 1 incidents are looked at differently and when it has benefited you, you work quite well with the rules.
Even Leclerc had no issue.

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personally I think it's a stupid rule to not allow off-track overtakes on the outside. Russell's was a great one yesterday. But that's probably a better topic for the off season

[Juzh]

Turn 1 or not, entirely premeditated overtake off track should be punished if position is not returned. Funny how everyone else managed to stay on track. Hamilton's only able to overtake in the first place because he's carrying too much speed to stay on track anyway. Entire thing is facilitated way before the actually move off track, but stewards blind.

[AR3-GP]

personally I think it's a stupid rule to not allow off-track overtakes on the outside. Russell's was a great one yesterday. But that's probably a better topic for the off season

This is a road best not traveled...ever

[chrisc90]

So let’s cut the first chicane at Monaco, gain a couple places and it’s fine to do so because it’s lap 1, turn 1.

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Haas maybe going to higher DF rear-wing?

[dans79]

Lewis already completed the turn and was strait heading towards turn 2, however charles had a moment and slid towards Lewis, so he took avoiding action.

[gazza42000]

Perfectly calculated.

I do wonder though....for this track limits thing (given its a bit OT here, but we have seen a solution at COTA), Would making the white line 2-3x wider actually help with the track limits. Drivers have a bit more to aim for from the edge of the tarmac, and less likely to run out wide. Gives them better sight of the line aswell and a little more leeway.

It sounds stupidly simple, but it could actually be a very good solution.

Isn’t that exactly what they did at Turn 19? Widen the white line!

It truly is a simple solution that they should have implemented in Austria too! It makes life easier for the stewards too…

They did it at a few corners, 9 and 12 aswell I believe?

Also, I think they should paint the white on the kerbs, with a difference colour of paint, Maybe a yellow line at the leading edge of the white which would make it much simpler to see if the tyre is over the white line. White on white - hard to see. If you saw yellow between the white line of the track and the white section of kerb - its guaranteed over.

They 'asked the drivers' - a bad move in the 1st place, give them an inch and they'll want 10 more. The white line is the limit - don't cross it. I would write it in the rules that the white line must be a certain width and NO MORE, and it cannot be moved once the race weekend has started.

[chrisc90]

I agree with you.

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Lovely unseen battle between Yuki and Kmag in the sprint

[f1jcw]

Lovely unseen battle between Yuki and Kmag in the sprint

A lot of off track action there, strangely no one’s crying in here

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Lovely unseen battle between Yuki and Kmag in the sprint

A lot of track action there, strangely no one’s crying in here

Yuki did ask the team to report it later on.

[AR3-GP]

Lovely unseen battle between Yuki and Kmag in the sprint

A lot of off track action there, strangely no one’s crying in here

I think if you choose certain moments of this battle in isolation you might earn a visit to the stewards, but in totality it doesn't move the meter. Each driver conceded a little bit back to the other, so it ended up in a fair outcome in the end. The completion of the overtake was a fairly uncontroversial DRS pass by Tsunoda into T1.