2023 United States Grand Prix - COTA, Oct 20 - 22

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Re: 2023 United States Grand Prix - COTA, Oct 20 - 22

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organic wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:54
ringo wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:52
Juzh wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:45

It's harsh because it's about mercedes, obviously if RB did it no less than removal from the championship would be adequate.
Well I do not think Newey and team would make that mistake. The ground control on the RB19 is so insane that floor could probably skim graphene layers from the asphalt and not touch the ground.

It's clear that the teams could not account for the rideheight issues that may have evnetualized on heavy fuel and even for the bumps over the race distance. In mercedes case, a new floor, and for ferrari their bouncing.
Did you not see the rb19 this weekend? They ran it about a mile off the ground obviously giving up performance to avoid things like this...
Yes I agree. I am saying they know exactly how low their floor is going to the ground throughout the race. And it does travel from high to low in the race.
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ringo wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:56

Yes I agree. I am saying they know exactly how low their floor is going to the ground throughout the race. And it does travel from high to low in the race.
I understand now thanks

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Cs98 wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:51
grubschumi13 wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:41
No Jo Bauer just must not like Hamilton. Car 16 is a decoy so it does not look suspicious. This is the only logical explanation.
I would laugh but we both know Bauer and the FIA will receive a lot of grief if this ends up in a DQ.

Why should the FIA get the grief? They are there to uphold the rules and regulations. 0.2mm failed in Brazil 2021 on the drs.

People won’t be happy, but okay by the rules.

I’m sure it would be different if the shoe was on the other foot and a different competitor fell foul of the rulebook
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With hindsight, thank goodness that Verstappen held on. The sport would have imploded with conspiracies otherwise... :lol:
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Cs98 wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:34
ringo wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:32
Lando's disdain for Lewis is not because he is Max's freind. People forget Lando is driving a Mclaren. The last great driver at Mclaren is Hamilton. I am sure inside the team there are employees who still look up to Hamilton and could even be comparing Norris to Hamilton. Norris has 100 races with Mclaren and no wins. Hamilton got wins as a rookie. Lando's career will always be in Hamilton's shadow and he will always be compared. The same goes for George Russel but not as much. These young guys aren't even the fastest guy in their country because of Hamilton.
Jackie Stewart also showed similar negative vibes. He was always jealous and always comparing himself to Hamilton.

Anyhow this was a good race. Mercedes could have come closer to Max, but I think Max had things under control. He would have simply gone faster if Mercedes pit Lewis right after him. He had brake issues, but he was able to keep a certain gap then rest, then increase it again for both Lando and Lewis.
Hamilton's race pace is very dangerous and unsettling for Max, and I am looking forward to more races like these. Mercedes just need a car within 2.5 tenths of the RB19 to ruffle Max's feathers. They were not going to win, but it's at least good to see Max screaming and hollering at GP when he gets told the gap behind to Lewis. :lol:

My star of the race is Yuki. He has been doubted so much, and yet he shows all the time that he is a quality driver. He destroy riciardo. And I think he needs a go in the redbull. Perez did better than expected, but Yuki showed real grit by getting his points in a slow car.

Ferrari are a disaster. They keep giving Sainz more points than Leclerc for no good reason.
Best fanfic I've read in a while. You should publish that in a book.
He already gets paid to write that as part of Hamilton’s PR group or atleast I hope so.
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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 01:01
With hindsight, thank goodness that Verstappen held on. The sport would have imploded with conspiracies otherwise... :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I was wanting a early night, how long does this take

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Ex- F1 engineer @ RB explains that the area of the floor cited in the documents usually can only come under scrutiny if it's a result of setup problem


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Tecnhical rules are black & white. Ocon got dsq after his engine went over 100 kg/h for 0.001s after he struck a kerb, all else didnt matter.

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It’s going to be a long night now waiting for this to be decided.
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Juzh wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 01:14
Tecnhical rules are black & white. Ocon got dsq after his engine went over 100 kg/h for 0.001s after he struck a kerb, all else didnt matter.
Ricciardo also got thrown out of Singapore GP qualifying in 2019 due to a millisecond over-rev of the KERS after he struck a kerb.

Kerbs and bumps are not an excuse.
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Remember this?

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 01:23
Remember this?

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 01:23
Remember this?

https://i.postimg.cc/L5YXyD1s/image.png
RB is in another league. Like they are miles ahead.
organic wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 01:14
Ex- F1 engineer @ RB explains that the area of the floor cited in the documents usually can only come under scrutiny if it's a result of setup problem


I doubt that Russell and Sainz had different ride height compared to Lewis and Leclerc.

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If the plank is indeed worn below limits, that a clear disqualification, it would be interesting to see if those planks were checked in Singapore . Rules are rules. After all the recent directives in regards to plank mounting etc, you would think a team would keep an eye on that. Also wasn't Mercedes the team that was concerned about driver safety and bottoming out cars?