2023 Aston Martin | Aramco | Cognizant F1 Team

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It's also normal across the board for the max dwf config to still have double pillar. From what's been said, the main advantage of the single pylon is an efficiency increase - something that's not exactly relevant at Mexico

Well actually there is a very long straight in Mexico, which is why they are testing two wings (Monaco and double pillar) because in the race you then risk being like McLaren at Spa.

I actually think they risk being Aston Martin @ Japan.

Mexico with high downforce wings at max speeds of over 350 km/h produce very high loads.

The rb16b RW assembly was continually breaking & cracking when it raced in Mexico in 2021. This happened after the flexible wing TD earlier in the season - the Flexi wing TD would mean that the rear wing flexes less so the maximum load experienced will be higher and may exceed design parameters

AMR are already worried about their RW breaking under load as occured for their medium-high wing at Japan. Perhaps this year's flexible wing TDs could have a similar effect as in 2021, so they are checking that the single pylon is ok to use and if not they have the more structurally sound double pylon from 2022

Remember, after Strolls retirement, they asked Alonso to stay off the curbs. It wasn't a load issue.

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Well actually there is a very long straight in Mexico, which is why they are testing two wings (Monaco and double pillar) because in the race you then risk being like McLaren at Spa.

I actually think they risk being Aston Martin @ Japan.

Mexico with high downforce wings at max speeds of over 350 km/h produce very high loads.

The rb16b RW assembly was continually breaking & cracking when it raced in Mexico in 2021. This happened after the flexible wing TD earlier in the season - the Flexi wing TD would mean that the rear wing flexes less so the maximum load experienced will be higher and may exceed design parameters

AMR are already worried about their RW breaking under load as occured for their medium-high wing at Japan. Perhaps this year's flexible wing TDs could have a similar effect as in 2021, so they are checking that the single pylon is ok to use and if not they have the more structurally sound double pylon from 2022

Remember, after Strolls retirement, they asked Alonso to stay off the curbs. It wasn't a load issue.

Does that explain why they had load sensors mounted to pylon of the RW already on Thursday? If unlucky kerb strike I don't think they'd have extra sensors ready at beginning of weekend



I feel the call to avoid kerbs could easily be precautionary even if they don't know exact cause of stroll's issue. Suzuka kerbs are far from aggressive

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I actually think they risk being Aston Martin @ Japan.

Mexico with high downforce wings at max speeds of over 350 km/h produce very high loads.

The rb16b RW assembly was continually breaking & cracking when it raced in Mexico in 2021. This happened after the flexible wing TD earlier in the season - the Flexi wing TD would mean that the rear wing flexes less so the maximum load experienced will be higher and may exceed design parameters

AMR are already worried about their RW breaking under load as occured for their medium-high wing at Japan. Perhaps this year's flexible wing TDs could have a similar effect as in 2021, so they are checking that the single pylon is ok to use and if not they have the more structurally sound double pylon from 2022

Remember, after Strolls retirement, they asked Alonso to stay off the curbs. It wasn't a load issue.

Does that explain why they had load sensors mounted to pylon of the RW already on Thursday? If unlucky kerb strike I don't think they'd have extra sensors ready at beginning of weekend

https://i.imgur.com/4SPJmYI.jpeg

I feel the call to avoid kerbs could easily be precautionary even if they don't know exact cause of stroll's issue. Suzuka kerbs are far from aggressive

Aston Martin wanted to control wing bending after the tightening controls by the FIA that introduced TD018 Technical Directive in Singapore. The sensors were capable of measuring the inflections of the side bulkheads. Also Stroll got the call to avoid the kerbs after his rear wing was already loose, they just wanted to try to continue the race and thats why he got told to avoid the kerbs.

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Remember, after Strolls retirement, they asked Alonso to stay off the curbs. It wasn't a load issue.

Does that explain why they had load sensors mounted to pylon of the RW already on Thursday? If unlucky kerb strike I don't think they'd have extra sensors ready at beginning of weekend

https://i.imgur.com/4SPJmYI.jpeg

I feel the call to avoid kerbs could easily be precautionary even if they don't know exact cause of stroll's issue. Suzuka kerbs are far from aggressive

Aston Martin wanted to control wing bending after the tightening controls by the FIA that introduced TD018 Technical Directive in Singapore. The sensors were capable of measuring the inflections of the side bulkheads. Also Stroll got the call to avoid the kerbs after his rear wing was already loose, they just wanted to try to continue the race and thats why he got told to avoid the kerbs.

Alonso got told, not Stroll. Stroll retired.

I agree it could have been precautionary.

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Of course they have,just is modified, so don't have to report for FIA. Only the full new parts have to register. The edited ones not.

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No problems just a rear wing change

[KimiRai]

Ted Kravitz was wrong according to the FIA sheet, it happens, unless he meant something that wasn't declared.

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Now we know why they brought that rear wing.

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Now we know why they brought that rear wing.

My theory in the mud

using old rear wing to collect data from the rear as they know exactly how that wing behaves?

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Ted Kravitz was wrong according to the FIA sheet, it happens, unless he meant something that wasn't declared.

I can never find that FIA sheet.

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Now we know why they brought that rear wing.

My theory in the mud

using old rear wing to collect data from the rear as they know exactly how that wing behaves?

It's for the floor, rear brake ducts and all that stuff. Nothing to do with the wing. The wing is just holding it.

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close, no ?

[KimiRai]

Ted Kravitz was wrong according to the FIA sheet, it happens, unless he meant something that wasn't declared.

I can never find that FIA sheet.

According to The Race "Mercedes and Aston Martin have declared no upgrades, presumably because they have the required cooling capacity on components already available."