2023 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 03 - 05

[chrisc90]

Classic FIA ruling these years!

A violation happens at a race! The violation is worth a penalty but:
-Is Verstapen involved?
1. No! Alright let’s hand penalties!
2.Yes! Alright let’s change the rule from the next race onwards and then hand penalties!

And what if Verstapen happens to violate the new rule? Alright we’ll just change the rule again because it seemed unreasonable in the end!

This isn’t coincidence anymore…

Meanwhile Verstapen himself went on the grass at racing speed to overtake at the pit exit! This could have been a nasty crash! But as always no need to investigate anything! Just laugh in social media and say how exciting it was…

I think it was because Max had to take avoiding action to avoid running into the back of a stationary/very slow car.

[AMG.Tzan]

Classic FIA ruling these years!

A violation happens at a race! The violation is worth a penalty but:
-Is Verstapen involved?
1. No! Alright let’s hand penalties!
2.Yes! Alright let’s change the rule from the next race onwards and then hand penalties!

And what if Verstapen happens to violate the new rule? Alright we’ll just change the rule again because it seemed unreasonable in the end!

This isn’t coincidence anymore…

Meanwhile Verstapen himself went on the grass at racing speed to overtake at the pit exit! This could have been a nasty crash! But as always no need to investigate anything! Just laugh in social media and say how exciting it was…

I think it was because Max had to take avoiding action to avoid running into the back of a stationary/very slow car.

I think it was from Perez’s onboard that I saw Verstapen overtake him and another 2 cars ahead of him! How come Perez or the others ahead didn’t get penalized for this?

Or were Gasly’s and Ocon’s penalties for this incident?

[_cerber1]

Classic FIA ruling these years!

A violation happens at a race! The violation is worth a penalty but:
-Is Verstapen involved?
1. No! Alright let’s hand penalties!
2.Yes! Alright let’s change the rule from the next race onwards and then hand penalties!

And what if Verstapen happens to violate the new rule? Alright we’ll just change the rule again because it seemed unreasonable in the end!

This isn’t coincidence anymore…

Meanwhile Verstapen himself went on the grass at racing speed to overtake at the pit exit! This could have been a nasty crash! But as always no need to investigate anything! Just laugh in social media and say how exciting it was…

Bravo!!! I would carve it in stone!

[mwillems]

Classic FIA ruling these years!

A violation happens at a race! The violation is worth a penalty but:
-Is Verstapen involved?
1. No! Alright let’s hand penalties!
2.Yes! Alright let’s change the rule from the next race onwards and then hand penalties!

And what if Verstapen happens to violate the new rule? Alright we’ll just change the rule again because it seemed unreasonable in the end!

This isn’t coincidence anymore…

Meanwhile Verstapen himself went on the grass at racing speed to overtake at the pit exit! This could have been a nasty crash! But as always no need to investigate anything! Just laugh in social media and say how exciting it was…

I think it was because Max had to take avoiding action to avoid running into the back of a stationary/very slow car.

I think it was from Perez’s onboard that I saw Verstapen overtake him and another 2 cars ahead of him! How come Perez or the others ahead didn’t get penalized for this?

Or were Gasly’s and Ocon’s penalties for this incident?

Do you have a link to the incident?

[AMG.Tzan]

I think it was because Max had to take avoiding action to avoid running into the back of a stationary/very slow car.

I think it was from Perez’s onboard that I saw Verstapen overtake him and another 2 cars ahead of him! How come Perez or the others ahead didn’t get penalized for this?

Or were Gasly’s and Ocon’s penalties for this incident?

Do you have a link to the incident?

https://x.com/khantalks_/status/1720716 ... WmvjLuP-KA

Btw which button do I use to make Twitter posts visible instead of just the link like above??

[mwillems]

I think it was from Perez’s onboard that I saw Verstapen overtake him and another 2 cars ahead of him! How come Perez or the others ahead didn’t get penalized for this?

Or were Gasly’s and Ocon’s penalties for this incident?

Do you have a link to the incident?

https://x.com/khantalks_/status/1720716 ... WmvjLuP-KA

Btw which button do I use to make Twitter posts visible instead of just the link like above??

Twitter posts are automatic, I suspect using the x.com URL confuses the forum software. For me it redirects to the twitter url and I post that and it's fine.

[mwillems]

I think it was from Perez’s onboard that I saw Verstapen overtake him and another 2 cars ahead of him! How come Perez or the others ahead didn’t get penalized for this?

Or were Gasly’s and Ocon’s penalties for this incident?

Do you have a link to the incident?

https://x.com/khantalks_/status/1720716 ... WmvjLuP-KA

Btw which button do I use to make Twitter posts visible instead of just the link like above??

Is there an onboard for Max? How did he not know there was a queue? The team have a responsibility to tell him, even if it is hard to see coming round the pit exit corner.

Looks slam dunk to me.

[mwillems]

This shows Max's view. Tons of white flags (Slower moving vehicle ahead) and he is speeding up.

[bluechris]

This shows Max's view. Tons of white flags (Slower moving vehicle ahead) and he is speeding up.

Why nobody protest this?

[falonso81]

When white flags are shown, you have to be cautious. Speeding up is the exact opposite thing you are supposed to do. Wasn't that dangerous from Max? I know no one will look at it twice, until a nasty crash involving him happens. It is not a matter of if but when.

[DDopey]

This shows Max's view. Tons of white flags (Slower moving vehicle ahead) and he is speeding up.

Why nobody protest this?

Because these were the new rules introduced for this weekend. That FIA didn't think it over is not Max his problem. What I do find strange is how Perez gets away with it. He is maybe a bit more to the left but not by that much.

[AMG.Tzan]

This shows Max's view. Tons of white flags (Slower moving vehicle ahead) and he is speeding up.

Ah there we go then!

This isn’t avoiding action! He just wants track position. Passes them and then slows down in front of them!

This is ridiculous by the FIA! Implementing their owns rules wherever they like! This was quite dangerous from Verstapen and also the Alfa Romeo should have gotten a penalty if we take into account the new pit exit rule…

All these ridiculous rules for nothing! Same goes for track limits! Just complexities that solve nothing! This qualifying system has been in use for over 15 years now and we never had a problem! Why now?

[chrisc90]

I think a few are getting confused here.

Russell was blocking Perez, so that’s why he wasn’t getting a penalty.
I can only assume that it was the case for ocon and gasly too.

[mwillems]

I think a few are getting confused here.

Russell was blocking Perez, so that’s why he wasn’t getting a penalty.
I can only assume that it was the case for ocon and gasly too.

I'm not confused because my opinion differs from yours.

Speed up under white flags and go on the grass next to a wall is on Max.

We don't not slow under yellows because the driver who went off broke a rule.

They are not there for interpretation, but safety, and that was not safe. It was forewarned by the stewards with an instruction to be cautious. He did the opposite.

[chrisc90]

I think a few are getting confused here.

Russell was blocking Perez, so that’s why he wasn’t getting a penalty.
I can only assume that it was the case for ocon and gasly too.

I'm not confused because my opinion differs from yours.

Speed up under white flags and go on the grass next to a wall is on Max.

We don't not slow under yellows because the driver who went off broke a rule.

They are not there for interpretation, but safety, and that was not safe. It was forewarned by the stewards with an instruction to be cautious. He did the opposite.

Max wasn’t penalised because he didn’t impede anyone.

My post wasn’t even about max to be fair.