2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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what on Earth is happening here ? :D this Silly season had all the ingredients to be dull, boring.,.,. Instead we have one of the greatest silly season ever.

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Venturiation wrote:
05 Feb 2024, 15:02
ThijsMuis wrote:
05 Feb 2024, 14:47
Horner (50) is said to have been guilty of unacceptable behavior, in particular towards one particular Red Bull Racing team member. The great sports boss of the energy drink group, Oliver Mintzlaff, knows the accusations and takes the case high. A spokesman for Red Bull told De Telegraaf: “After the company has been informed of certain recent allegations, an independent investigation has been launched. This process, which is already underway, is carried out by an external, specialized lawyer. The company takes these matters very seriously and the investigation will be completed as soon as practicable. It would not be appropriate to comment further at this time.” Horner has been asked about the allegations and the ongoing investigation. He responds: “I completely deny these claims.”
Binotto to redbull
Maybe Red Bull can say Horner wasn't a member of staff as they have done with their representatives previously?

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Maybe because he's so high ranking they can't use internal staff? otherwise it's a very serious allegation to be getting an external body in
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I smell retaliation from a certain Dr Marko, as a payback for trying to push him out :lol:
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If anything found probably just be brushed under the carpet
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"inappropriate behavior [...] towards one particular team member" sounds pretty bad, tbh. But as there's talk about an "independent investigation" only, I would guess it's something not prohibited by law, at least?

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Here in the Netherlands this is now case 3 about inappropriate behaviour in one day.

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He will apparently remain in his role whilst the investigation takes place


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Why is the new RBPT-Honda engine called RBPTH002? They ran RBPTH001 for the past two seasons. Upgrades?

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05 Feb 2024, 17:38
Why is the new RBPT-Honda engine called RBPTH002? They ran RBPTH001 for the past two seasons. Upgrades?
Yes my guess is there weren't enough changes between 2022 and 2023 to warrant a name change (if there were any made apart from software).. whereas now there are some changes which I feel have been alluded to in comments a few times

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Good news if there was enough distinction to take a new name.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chri ... -60bh6w53s


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Confirmation of the investigation follows 36 hours of denials from the factory in Milton Keynes of any alleged wrongdoing. Indeed, Horner described the accusations as 'nuts' in a message protesting his innocence to MailOnline. Legal action was taken against Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, who pulled their original story on lawyers' advice until it broke on a German website, F1-Insider, at lunchtime today. According to Horner loyalists, he is the victim of an internal fight within the broader Red Bull family."

A source within the Red Bull team added that the claims under scrutiny related to 'incredibly controlling behavior'.

Allegations of a sexual nature relating to Horner were flying around within the sport over the weekend, ahead of the new season starting next month. But they are flatly denied by the father-of-two and no evidence of that nature has been established.

Wow. Sexual allegations being used against Horner by the RB family? This could go nuclear.
If it is Horner should sue. But this will lead to big consequences for Red Bull.
This is not what this team needs right now dominating the sport

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ThijsMuis wrote:
05 Feb 2024, 15:19
Venturiation wrote:
05 Feb 2024, 15:02
ThijsMuis wrote:
05 Feb 2024, 14:47
Binotto to redbull
Maybe Red Bull can say Horner wasn't a member of staff as they have done with their representatives previously?
They have real proof

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Why would the Red Bull family want to do this to Horner? He's been a loyal personel for nearly 20 years! It would be so disappointing and very sad if true.
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ThijsMuis wrote:
05 Feb 2024, 18:06
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chri ... -60bh6w53s


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Confirmation of the investigation follows 36 hours of denials from the factory in Milton Keynes of any alleged wrongdoing. Indeed, Horner described the accusations as 'nuts' in a message protesting his innocence to MailOnline. Legal action was taken against Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, who pulled their original story on lawyers' advice until it broke on a German website, F1-Insider, at lunchtime today. According to Horner loyalists, he is the victim of an internal fight within the broader Red Bull family."

A source within the Red Bull team added that the claims under scrutiny related to 'incredibly controlling behavior'.

Allegations of a sexual nature relating to Horner were flying around within the sport over the weekend, ahead of the new season starting next month. But they are flatly denied by the father-of-two and no evidence of that nature has been established.

Wow. Sexual allegations being used against Horner by the RB family? This could go nuclear.
If it is Horner should sue. But this will lead to big consequences for Red Bull.
This is not what this team needs right now dominating the sport
This is too big, if it's coming from inside it means they are getting rid of hom