And I was only poking fun.
And I was only poking fun.
Indeed, sparks more and seemingly runs lower at higher speeds.
Also a big challenge on the PU side with what Honda got together in the end before the freeze.Seanspeed wrote: ↑14 Feb 2024, 15:25The results gap was enormous, but ultimate performance gaps weren't necessarily as huge. The Red Bull was just an incredibly consistent monster every Sunday. Perez struggled with the car on many Saturdays to where it wouldn't have suggested it was any kind of world-beater if we didn't know what Max was doing with the same car.Andres125sx wrote: ↑14 Feb 2024, 09:37It obviously depends on your understanding of what big means, but...
2023 WCC:
1 RED BULL RACING 860
2 MERCEDES 409
3 FERRARI 406
More points than 2nd and 3rd toghether is a big, even huge gap to me. So big they probably went conservative at the end of the season to avoid any mechanical problem, what made us think Ferrari and Mercedes were closer than they really were/are
I mean, everybody knows it's a long shot for anybody to catch up to a moving Red Bull target. We know how well they are able to hold and develop on their advantages. So you'd have to be silly to have expected anybody else to have come up with some new, radical concept that could suddenly upset the apple cart all while the roads have been maintained and stayed the same(aka the regulations). But, it's not inconceivable that some team could get their act together enough to close the gap enough to make things more interesting, more regularly. Ferrari have proven the closest performance competitor to Red Bull so far in this 2022 era, and while they are now running a different concept, usually what matters most is getting all the details right and making sure everything is working as it should.
Maybe nailing these details and getting a more 'complete' design vision accomplished will propel Ferrari to being more competitive. Not saying to expect that, but it's definitely within the realm of possibility.
Be interesting to see how the "overbite" and "underbite" argument plays out. Ferrari and Aston under, Merc neutral and MCL, RB (who knows) over. Also if RB have moved the SIS to the top as speculation is suggesting, that is some gamble.
https://formu1a.uno/en/vasseur-leclerc- ... contracts/This winter, a key topic for Fred Vasseur is the contracts of Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz. Both expire at the end of 2024, and renewal negotiations have started.
Recently, the president of Ferrari, John Elkann, showed clear confidence in retaining both drivers.
“Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz will certainly continue with us” in a relationship where all parties are happy and want to continue.
Time is short, but Vasseur has clear ideas:
“The goal is to renew them before next season, yes”.
Obviously they were hiding that because it was highly uncertain still. What was there to gain by being open about it, especially if it didn’t end up landing properly?AR3-GP wrote:Vasseur/Elkann gave this interview posted to formu1a.uno in mid-december. I'm confused how we got from here, to signing Hamilton.
https://formu1a.uno/en/vasseur-leclerc- ... contracts/This winter, a key topic for Fred Vasseur is the contracts of Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz. Both expire at the end of 2024, and renewal negotiations have started.
Recently, the president of Ferrari, John Elkann, showed clear confidence in retaining both drivers.
“Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz will certainly continue with us” in a relationship where all parties are happy and want to continue.
Time is short, but Vasseur has clear ideas:
“The goal is to renew them before next season, yes”.
Was he just hiding the Hamilton negotiations?
It does not seem like Hamilton decided until very late.
No I don't think they were going to broadcast it, but it's just amusing to read back now that I've learned it was untrue.dialtone wrote: ↑14 Feb 2024, 23:05Obviously they were hiding that because it was highly uncertain still. What was there to gain by being open about it, especially if it didn’t end up landing properly?AR3-GP wrote:Vasseur/Elkann gave this interview posted to formu1a.uno in mid-december. I'm confused how we got from here, to signing Hamilton.
https://formu1a.uno/en/vasseur-leclerc- ... contracts/This winter, a key topic for Fred Vasseur is the contracts of Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz. Both expire at the end of 2024, and renewal negotiations have started.
Recently, the president of Ferrari, John Elkann, showed clear confidence in retaining both drivers.
“Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz will certainly continue with us” in a relationship where all parties are happy and want to continue.
Time is short, but Vasseur has clear ideas:
“The goal is to renew them before next season, yes”.
Was he just hiding the Hamilton negotiations?
It does not seem like Hamilton decided until very late.
There is no such thing as loyalty and friendship in F1. Every driver is for themselve and friendship are utilities. I won't be surprise LH decision to join Ferrari was done in haste, just shortly after LH get his first view of W15.AR3-GP wrote: ↑14 Feb 2024, 23:13No I don't think they were going to broadcast it, but it's just amusing to read back now that I've learned it was untrue.dialtone wrote: ↑14 Feb 2024, 23:05Obviously they were hiding that because it was highly uncertain still. What was there to gain by being open about it, especially if it didn’t end up landing properly?AR3-GP wrote:Vasseur/Elkann gave this interview posted to formu1a.uno in mid-december. I'm confused how we got from here, to signing Hamilton.
https://formu1a.uno/en/vasseur-leclerc- ... contracts/
Was he just hiding the Hamilton negotiations?
It does not seem like Hamilton decided until very late.
Oh make no mistake. Lewis has plenty to lose going to Ferrari. Plenty. He’s the new guy on the team and so on the back foot the first year of only 2. He’s a whole year now to be in Merc while signed with Ferrari which will carry all kinds of insubordination snags. Charles is much faster than George and Lewis will be an old man in F1 terms — age doesn’t lie, and Charles will be peaking. If Lewis gets his arse kicked riding the first loser train with Charles in charge, many will question his past accomplishments even more so. Lewis must at the very very least beat Charles to keep this decision reasonably good. Otherwise it’s gonna blow up in his face.CHT wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 16:41There is no such thing as loyalty and friendship in F1. Every driver is for themselve and friendship are utilities. I won't be surprise LH decision to join Ferrari was done in haste, just shortly after LH get his first view of W15.
Perhaps LH felt that current Merc team will not be able to deliver the car for him to win 8WDC, if so going to Ferrari he has nothing to lose.
As for Ferrari it's perhaps an opportunity which is too good to pass.. LH may bave been inspired by Marc Marquez switching to Ducati.