Mercedes W15

[Owen.C93]

They still don't. It's a fan account.

[KimiRai]

They still don't. It's a fan account.

Source is not the fan account by itself but this article

https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2024 ... sione.html

[SICK AL SPEEDSHOP]

[SICK AL SPEEDSHOP]

the front wing reminds me a bit of the 2005/06 cars

[Hutchie.91]

https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/mO ... oKzeVa9kyU

How is this section of the wing legal???

3.9
j. The normal to any point of the profiles surface must not subtend an angle greater than
25° to a vertical plane that is normal to RS-FW-SECTION for the forward most two
profiles and 30° for any other profiles.

How is that rod connecting 4th flap to the nose cone not more than 30°?

Measurement of angle of attack to any point of the profile

All it means is that if you take a point anywhere on the fourth element/LE, and intersect it with a Y-slice to get the profile section, a line tangent to the profile section at that point can't be more than 30 deg to the reference plane in side view.

It's legal, and not difficult to achieve. Other teams already would have tried the concept themselves and isn't a magic bullet people think it is and no-where near as powerful/useful as the Y250 of old.

[zibby43]

https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/mO ... oKzeVa9kyU

How is this section of the wing legal???

3.9
j. The normal to any point of the profiles surface must not subtend an angle greater than
25° to a vertical plane that is normal to RS-FW-SECTION for the forward most two
profiles and 30° for any other profiles.

How is that rod connecting 4th flap to the nose cone not more than 30°?

Measurement of angle of attack to any point of the profile

All it means is that if you take a point anywhere on the fourth element/LE, and intersect it with a Y-slice to get the profile section, a line tangent to the profile section at that point can't be more than 30 deg to the reference plane in side view.

It's legal, and not difficult to achieve. Other teams already would have tried the concept themselves and isn't a magic bullet people think it is and no-where near as powerful/useful as the Y250 of old.

Agreed. Scarbs echoed this sentiment as well in his analysis. Still could be effective though. Let’s see what happens.

[FW17]

https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/mO ... oKzeVa9kyU

How is this section of the wing legal???

3.9
j. The normal to any point of the profiles surface must not subtend an angle greater than
25° to a vertical plane that is normal to RS-FW-SECTION for the forward most two
profiles and 30° for any other profiles.

How is that rod connecting 4th flap to the nose cone not more than 30°?

Measurement of angle of attack to any point of the profile

All it means is that if you take a point anywhere on the fourth element/LE, and intersect it with a Y-slice to get the profile section, a line tangent to the profile section at that point can't be more than 30 deg to the reference plane in side view.

It's legal, and not difficult to achieve. Other teams already would have tried the concept themselves and isn't a magic bullet people think it is and no-where near as powerful/useful as the Y250 of old.

Is it possible to sketch and show

[atanatizante]

From Kyle`s video, it seems that there`s a high-pressure low-velocity zone at that concave area rather than stagnation pressure.
So could the concave surface be inducing a vortex rather than a clean airflow downstream (if I`m not wrong) that is helped or energized by the new front wing vortex now created? Or the main/only function of this front vortex is to increase the outwash front tyre wake?



Also from Kyle`s video, there`s a detail on the cake tin having, I quote, "a nice curvature" which is designed to clean the airflow at that suspension arms area. Could it be also another role? Such as working in conjunction with that new front vortex adding to the outwash front tyre effect? Or it`s just minimal ...

[Hutchie.91]

https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/mO ... oKzeVa9kyU

How is this section of the wing legal???


How is that rod connecting 4th flap to the nose cone not more than 30°?

Measurement of angle of attack to any point of the profile

All it means is that if you take a point anywhere on the fourth element/LE, and intersect it with a Y-slice to get the profile section, a line tangent to the profile section at that point can't be more than 30 deg to the reference plane in side view.

It's legal, and not difficult to achieve. Other teams already would have tried the concept themselves and isn't a magic bullet people think it is and no-where near as powerful/useful as the Y250 of old.

Is it possible to sketch and show

Ignore my awful attempt at a front wing scheme, obviously it's not my day-job in this business and obviously I haven't bothered with the other regs with regard to 5-10mm slot gap, RS not being visible, max curvature. But here you go, funnily enough, that 4th element is the easiest to legalise for that reg. It's the points towards the TE of the full profiles that are more difficult due to their camber/AoA. With this LE strip, you don't have as much real estate to worry about, and the bit of the section that gets kept as legality is going to be close to parallel to the reference plane anyway. The only thing you need to worry about is keeping it in the RV and that it covers the TE of the 3rd element, with its own 'TE' being visible from below and, the projection of the 4th element 'TE' on a Z plane is one continious curve with no spanwise curvature smaller than 200mm.

[Luscion]

Seems like Merc might also be hiding something - https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... ison-2024/

Mercedes is keeping a low profile. After two years with just one win, one third and one second place in the overall standings, the former world series champion deliberately did not want to make any big announcements and raise hopes that might not be fulfilled. After a short presentation on YouTube, the works team holed up in rainy Silverstone to reel off the first few kilometers.

In order to keep expectations under control, Mercedes refrained from the usual question and answer session about the new car. There was only filtered information. Mercedes asked itself the questions and was stingy with photos that could reveal more than it wanted to. The computer animations showed a largely black car against a black background. At least the silver top of the nose, the turquoise-green Petronas stripes and the Ineos red add a bit more color than last year. Which is an indication that the engineers have done a good job of saving weight.

[maygun]

Seems like Merc might also be hiding something - https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... ison-2024/

Mercedes is keeping a low profile. After two years with just one win, one third and one second place in the overall standings, the former world series champion deliberately did not want to make any big announcements and raise hopes that might not be fulfilled. After a short presentation on YouTube, the works team holed up in rainy Silverstone to reel off the first few kilometers.

In order to keep expectations under control, Mercedes refrained from the usual question and answer session about the new car. There was only filtered information. Mercedes asked itself the questions and was stingy with photos that could reveal more than it wanted to. The computer animations showed a largely black car against a black background. At least the silver top of the nose, the turquoise-green Petronas stripes and the Ineos red add a bit more color than last year. Which is an indication that the engineers have done a good job of saving weight.

We still did not get a clear shot from the backside, I am feeling we would get some W11-style (I think it was a big revolution in the wishbone area, hence gigantic back downforce) innovation.

[Andi76]

[OO7]

Seems like Merc might also be hiding something - https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... ison-2024/

Mercedes is keeping a low profile. After two years with just one win, one third and one second place in the overall standings, the former world series champion deliberately did not want to make any big announcements and raise hopes that might not be fulfilled. After a short presentation on YouTube, the works team holed up in rainy Silverstone to reel off the first few kilometers.

In order to keep expectations under control, Mercedes refrained from the usual question and answer session about the new car. There was only filtered information. Mercedes asked itself the questions and was stingy with photos that could reveal more than it wanted to. The computer animations showed a largely black car against a black background. At least the silver top of the nose, the turquoise-green Petronas stripes and the Ineos red add a bit more color than last year. Which is an indication that the engineers have done a good job of saving weight.

We still did not get a clear shot from the backside, I am feeling we would get some W11-style (I think it was a big revolution in the wishbone area, hence gigantic back downforce) innovation.

You're not going to see anything particularly revolutionary at the back of the W15.

[K1Plus]

Seems like Merc might also be hiding something - https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... ison-2024/

We still did not get a clear shot from the backside, I am feeling we would get some W11-style (I think it was a big revolution in the wishbone area, hence gigantic back downforce) innovation.

You're not going to see anything particularly revolutionary at the back of the W15.

But hopefully we will see a better mechanical platform that'll make the car stable.

[Sieper]

What this wire 4rd element also enables is a lot of FW downward flexing that can’t be seen by the onboard camera.