Christian Horner under Investigation

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RedNEO wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:07
And if the news paper was shown why haven’t they printed any of it? So no evidence. Still innocent. Next
Depends what's in it, what they have seen might allow the public identify who the alleged victim is. It could also be of a graphic enough nature that local laws don't allow them to print it. Not to mention any other number of potential reasons!
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dans79 wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:11
RedNEO wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:07
And if the news paper was shown why haven’t they printed any of it? So no evidence. Still innocent. Next
Depends what's in it, what they have seen might allow the public identify who the alleged victim is. It could also be of a graphic enough nature that local laws don't allow them to print it. Not to mention any other number of potential reasons!
So no evidence. Next

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RedNEO wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:12
So no evidence. Next
Their is a difference between no evidence and evidence not appropriate for public consumption!
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Let's leave the politics out and let's not have trial by forum - there will be an outcome, for sure and we don't have the evidence to judge

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dans79 wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:13
RedNEO wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:12
So no evidence. Next
Their is a difference between no evidence and evidence not appropriate for public consumption!
That’s what the paper is counting on.. people who want to believe it’s true so bad they’ve concocted all sorts of reasons they can’t be physically shown the evidence including that old classic “it’s for their own personal safety”

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zeroday wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 17:53
The allegations, sadly, sound very plausible for what most males (of power) would do in their positions.
That's a pretty --- generalization.
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De Telegraaf claims that Horner allegedly sent sexually oriented messages to the employee over an extended period of time, with these messages saved and presented as evidence to the external barrister, via the employee's own private lawyer, with the allegations being reported in December 2023.

It is alleged by De Telegraaf that Horner's lawyers tried to settle the case with a payment of £650,000 GBP, with senior Red Bull GmbH management aware of the situation.

The shares of Red Bull GmbH are split 51-49% between Thai owner Chalerm Yoovidhya and Mark Mateschitz, the son of the late Dietrich Mateschitz, with Red Bull head of sports Oliver Mintzlaff also aware of the investigation.

It has been reported that Horner retains the backing of Yoovidhya, who is the major shareholder, but it is understood that Horner does not explicitly enjoy Yoovidhya's backing, with the businessman believed to be ambivalent towards the situation.
https://racingnews365.com/horners-lawye ... ---reports

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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:46
De Telegraaf claims that Horner allegedly sent sexually oriented messages to the employee over an extended period of time, with these messages saved and presented as evidence to the external barrister, via the employee's own private lawyer, with the allegations being reported in December 2023.

It is alleged by De Telegraaf that Horner's lawyers tried to settle the case with a payment of £650,000 GBP, with senior Red Bull GmbH management aware of the situation.

The shares of Red Bull GmbH are split 51-49% between Thai owner Chalerm Yoovidhya and Mark Mateschitz, the son of the late Dietrich Mateschitz, with Red Bull head of sports Oliver Mintzlaff also aware of the investigation.

It has been reported that Horner retains the backing of Yoovidhya, who is the major shareholder, but it is understood that Horner does not explicitly enjoy Yoovidhya's backing, with the businessman believed to be ambivalent towards the situation.
https://racingnews365.com/horners-lawye ... ---reports

So wait a sec, He offered the reporter as in the journo...or the reporter as in the person who made the allegation 650k?
"Interplay of triads"

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It would be "Hush Money" for the person making the complaint, if that report is even true.

It's a bold report, given that Horner has been denying everything.
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Quantum wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:54
So wait a sec, He offered the reporter as in the journo...or the reporter as in the person who made the allegation 650k?
It's been reported he tried to by buy off the woman. for some reasons the press keeps referring to her as the reporter.
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stuurden zijn advocaten binnen 24 uur een brief naar de jurist die de meldster bijstaat.
Horners lawyers send a letter to the woman - offering money.

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CMSMJ1 wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 18:16
Let's leave the politics out and let's not have trial by forum - there will be an outcome, for sure and we don't have the evidence to judge

Play nice
Well at least one person is pushing for exactly that ( trial by(social) media). Details that only few know about(settlement offer) are leaked to the press.

Not saying Horner is not an @$$, but there is definitely politics going on. Either he was protected, and the victim saw no other means to get justice than going public, or someone wants to get rid of him and the victim has her case being abused for that.

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I assume it is just translation. The one who reported him and not relating to journalism.
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Surely if there were "photographs of a sexual nature" involved, it would no longer be a civil or internal mater but a criminal court mater?
We have no news of such a thing do we, or it would not be allowed to be kept internal
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Big Tea wrote:
16 Feb 2024, 19:04
We have no news of such a thing do we, or it would not be allowed to be kept internal
That would only happen if she went to the police!
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