2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[JPower]

I wonder if the 30 points claim is just about pure one lap pace. I believe that we could see an even larger jump in terms of lap times(if this is the case) in the race if the downforce is more usable leading to less tyre wear and the car remains as slippery in a straight line.

That's the real key. The last two cars had no problem getting 100% of its performance over a lap.

Can the SF-24 produce the downforce reliably, in different conditions, on different tires, at higher fuel weights? That remains to be seen.

If so, race pace will be dramatically improved.

[LM10]

30 pts of downforce is improvement over final spec SF23. 30pts meaning 1s improvement refers to 2010 Mercedes F1 car, this was already explained.

Yes, sorry everyone for the confusion because of 1s said by Paddy Lowe which was true for the Mercedes in 2010. Didn’t know there was such a big difference between those cars and the current generation.

Thank you Vanja and organic for clarifying, interesting stuff!

[f1isgood]

Hopefully they compensate Ferrari for the car and potentially for also a P2 in the Constructors.

Just breach the budget and repent.

As long as it's minor there's nothing significant to be done by the FIA and when compared to Red Bull there is nothing to be even lost in terms of WCC/WDC standings.

[AR3-GP]

Hopefully they compensate Ferrari for the car and potentially for also a P2 in the Constructors.

Just breach the budget and repent.

As long as it's minor there's nothing significant to be done by the FIA and when compared to Red Bull there is nothing to be even lost in terms of WCC/WDC standings.

We don't know how much a loss of windtunnel time could hurt Ferrari, compared to a different team. We don't even know that having extra money would benefit Ferrari. It never benefitted them from 2010-2020.

[scuderiabrandon]

high speed corners almost feel night and day to me

[dialtone]

Just breach the budget and repent.

As long as it's minor there's nothing significant to be done by the FIA and when compared to Red Bull there is nothing to be even lost in terms of WCC/WDC standings.

We don't know how much a loss of windtunnel time could hurt Ferrari, compared to a different team. We don't even know that having extra money would benefit Ferrari. It never benefitted them from 2010-2020.

Literally just brake the rules till the cost of fixing the car is recouped and see how far they go punishing Ferrari if they dare. If I were in charge at Ferrari it would be full budget and I wouldn't even spend 2 minutes worried about it, they would be in the right and it's just embarrassing for FIA.

[f1isgood]

Just breach the budget and repent.

As long as it's minor there's nothing significant to be done by the FIA and when compared to Red Bull there is nothing to be even lost in terms of WCC/WDC standings.

We don't know how much a loss of windtunnel time could hurt Ferrari, compared to a different team. We don't even know that having extra money would benefit Ferrari. It never benefitted them from 2010-2020.

Likewise we don't know how much it will benefit them. Maybe Ferrari are now being more efficient.

[jambuka]

high speed corners almost feel night and day to me

The shakedown video on the launch day had the car running low and sparking. But looks like they raised the car for filming day and are not running it close to the ground. There is no sparking.

[Dream Theater]

The shakedown video on the launch day had the car running low and sparking. But looks like they raised the car for filming day and are not running it close to the ground. There is no sparking.

Yes, I was both days at Fiorano racetrack and I can confirm this.

[MTL79]

high speed corners almost feel night and day to me

Yeah the high speed cornering of the SF-24 looks much better. It seems to understeer more in the slow speed corners from those videos, but honestly, it's so hard to tell without really knowing what they were doing this year vs last year.

[yinlad]

high speed corners almost feel night and day to me

Yeah the high speed cornering of the SF-24 looks much better. It seems to understeer more in the slow speed corners from those videos, but honestly, it's so hard to tell without really knowing what they were doing this year vs last year.

Promo tyres, climatic differences, track temp and condition differences. Basically disregard any comparison between the two

[SuperCNJ]

high speed corners almost feel night and day to me

Yeah the high speed cornering of the SF-24 looks much better. It seems to understeer more in the slow speed corners from those videos, but honestly, it's so hard to tell without really knowing what they were doing this year vs last year.

Promo tyres, climatic differences, track temp and condition differences. Basically disregard any comparison between the two

Yep, all speculation really but watching those clips I can't help but get the sense that the SF24 has improved traction out of the corners.

[scuderiabrandon]

high speed corners almost feel night and day to me

Yeah the high speed cornering of the SF-24 looks much better. It seems to understeer more in the slow speed corners from those videos, but honestly, it's so hard to tell without really knowing what they were doing this year vs last year.

Promo tyres, climatic differences, track temp and condition differences. Basically disregard any comparison between the two

This is the most like for like comparison you'll ever get in a real life scenario.

Same driver, both on demo tyres, on the same circuit around a similar time of day, both taken from very similar angles & both are with comparable wing levels. Sure there are other unknown variables but were not conducting science here, as with everything in launch season it is mostly trying to make educated guesses.

[deadhead]

The ultimate indicator

[bluechris]

Yeah the high speed cornering of the SF-24 looks much better. It seems to understeer more in the slow speed corners from those videos, but honestly, it's so hard to tell without really knowing what they were doing this year vs last year.

Promo tyres, climatic differences, track temp and condition differences. Basically disregard any comparison between the two

This is the most like for like comparison you'll ever get in a real life scenario.

Same driver, both on demo tyres, on the same circuit around a similar time of day, both taken from very similar angles & both are with comparable wing levels. Sure there are other unknown variables but were not conducting science here, as with everything in launch season it is mostly trying to make educated guesses.

The most crucial that is a resurfaced track this year, put all the comparisons to rest.