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According to this, yes:Vanja #66 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 12:18Can anyone tell if steering arm really is ahead and above the lower front suspension arm? Just a sanity check
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
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Rear upper “wishbone” still looks to be separate leading and trailing links, yes?vorticism wrote: ↑23 Feb 2024, 23:19https://i.postimg.cc/nVWyLhTW/racefansd ... P-3645.jpg
Looks like they are still using the backwards rear lower control arm.
I think that it is clear from the picVanja #66 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 12:18Can anyone tell if steering arm really is ahead and above the lower front suspension arm? Just a sanity check
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... _HiRes.jpg
ing. wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 18:03According to this, yes:
https://x.com/raceng2/status/1757440976 ... 5rN71eTA2g
Indeed, thanks gents! Definitely a feature of RB18 originally, something AMR23 had even last year. SF23 went in a different direction, they aligned steering with suspension arm, I'd say in a pursuit of lowest possible drag. It does look like suspension arm design is important as a series of flow conditioners downstream of FW upwash. I would not be surprised if this was one of the big aero limitations of the front end on SF23, seemingly solved now on SF24.FDD wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 18:15I think that it is clear from the pic
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-c ... 6.jpg.webp
Regarding the arms like aero elements, flow conditioners, since you mention AMR23 and SF24 going in the same direction with steering/suspension arm alignment here is one picture with flow viz on AMR24 at suspension arms region.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 18:57ing. wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 18:03According to this, yes:
https://x.com/raceng2/status/1757440976 ... 5rN71eTA2gIndeed, thanks gents! Definitely a feature of RB18 originally, something AMR23 had even last year. SF23 went in a different direction, they aligned steering with suspension arm, I'd say in a pursuit of lowest possible drag. It does look like suspension arm design is important as a series of flow conditioners downstream of FW upwash. I would not be surprised if this was one of the big aero limitations of the front end on SF23, seemingly solved now on SF24.FDD wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 18:15I think that it is clear from the pic
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-c ... 6.jpg.webp
Indeed, some of the macro effects will be the same for both cars. If we look closely at the photo you posted earlier, there are a lot of similarities around suspension arms between SF24 and AMR24 - as expected.FDD wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024, 19:24Regarding the arms like aero elements, flow conditioners, since you mention AMR23 and SF24 going in the same direction with steering/suspension arm alignment here is one picture with flow viz on AMR24 at suspension arms region.
I do not know if it is ok to put AMR24 pictur in SF24 thread but I think it is in context of the discussion.
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-c ... 7.jpg.webp
It is possible to work on the ICE only for reliability reasons.
You ask a very difficult question that is likely to be known only by a few persons in a team.Chuckjr wrote: ↑27 Feb 2024, 08:46Does anyone know about how much faster in percentage the air is traveling at the compression points in the floor to create the Bernoulli effect? 10%? 40%? 60%? I’ve no clue. I was just curious the kinds of airspeeds they are dealing with in the floor tunnel compression phase.