2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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slow car again

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f1jcw wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 14:39
I'm sure they could have paid to put him in Williams for a year or so, or has Andrea's ego already so big that that wouldn't be good enough?
It's a waste of time to put a hot young talent in a back marker team. The frustration kills a lot of youthful exuberance that drives passion in a talented driver. Imagine Lewis having been put in a back marker in 2007. Who knows where he would have ended.

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I hope KA impresses in F2 from the get -go and they sign and commit early. I can’t bear having to listen to desperate Alonso trying to get that drive at Merc.

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mendis wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:29
f1jcw wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 14:39
I'm sure they could have paid to put him in Williams for a year or so, or has Andrea's ego already so big that that wouldn't be good enough?
It's a waste of time to put a hot young talent in a back marker team. The frustration kills a lot of youthful exuberance that drives passion in a talented driver. Imagine Lewis having been put in a back marker in 2007. Who knows where he would have ended.
In the past, just getting to F1 was enough.

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Henri wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 14:29

Always knew this guy toto was a slimy snake.. ross brawn bult Mercedes not this guy eating after people's hardwork.. nicky lauda would be disappointed
In other words, Helmut Marko is the reason behind LH to Ferrari.

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proteus wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 20:35


Why did they take their sweet time with George then?
At that point, they already had 2 drivers.
A lion must kill its prey.

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proteus wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 20:35


Kimi is only 17, and it isnt smart to just throw him in the seat of a Mercedes right away, right?

Why did they take their sweet time with George then?
Since they have resources needed, they can simply pay for a seat in a lower team, to see if the young driver has what it takes.

I would say that departure of Lewis took them all by surprise even more than they are willing to admit and what they have now is damage limitation by the Toto, so the team doesnt seem like weakened by the departure of their star driver.
Mercedes was winning championships at the time, Hamilton was near his peak powers and Toto didn't want to rock the boat. Lewis would still have Valtteri as his teammate if it was up to him.

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proteus wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 20:35
Cs98 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 16:12
Henri wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 14:29

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Kimi is only 17, and it isnt smart to just throw him in the seat of a Mercedes right away, right?

Why did they take their sweet time with George then? Since they have resources needed, they can simply pay for a seat in a lower team, to see if the young driver has what it takes.

I would say that departure of Lewis took them all by surprise even more than they are willing to admit and what they have now is damage limitation by the Toto, so the team doesnt seem like weakened by the departure of their star driver.
Makes perfect sense to me. Max, Lewis, Lando, trial by fire works if you have a talented enough prospect. The reason they were hesitant to promote George is. A, they were perennial contenders back then, and B, they had Hamilton in the team and thus had a clear title guy. Neither of those are true from 2025.

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f1jcw wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 16:33
Tota might not have being 100% fair to Lewis, but if he thinks Kimi is the future and needs there to secure the future of the team, that he's got to do what he's got to do, it might not be nice for Lewis but I wouldn't say it was snake like behaviour.
Me think there is a lot of mutual trust and respect between the 2. Lewis communicating it so far ahead says enough.

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Cs98 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 20:56
proteus wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 20:35
Cs98 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 16:12

In other words, Helmut Marko is the reason behind LH to Ferrari.
Kimi is only 17, and it isnt smart to just throw him in the seat of a Mercedes right away, right?

Why did they take their sweet time with George then? Since they have resources needed, they can simply pay for a seat in a lower team, to see if the young driver has what it takes.

I would say that departure of Lewis took them all by surprise even more than they are willing to admit and what they have now is damage limitation by the Toto, so the team doesnt seem like weakened by the departure of their star driver.
Makes perfect sense to me. Max, Lewis, Lando, trial by fire works if you have a talented enough prospect. The reason they were hesitant to promote George is. A, they were perennial contenders back then, and B, they had Hamilton in the team and thus had a clear title guy. Neither of those are true from 2025.
Well Max had a full season under his belt before joining RedBull, Lewis was at ripe age of 22 and Lando was a gamble for a Mclaren which did pay off, but in that time Mclaren were lower midfielders with struggles all over their organisation and Lando brought money with him if i am not mistaken.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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A lot of work still to do though: https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/27/ant ... t-f2-test/

It’s got crash & burn written all over it IMO. The hype & pressure is frankly ridiculous.
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

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214270 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 21:52
A lot of work still to do though: https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/27/ant ... t-f2-test/

It’s got crash & burn written all over it IMO. The hype & pressure is frankly ridiculous.
It don't see that. I see a driver who is able to give a precise technical break down of the differences between his karting and open wheel experiences and someone who understands the areas where he needs to adapt/improve. It is promising. You wouldn't want a driver who doesn't know why they are having a hard time and can't explain anything.
A lion must kill its prey.

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/russe ... /10580793/
Russell: Bouncing main issue with Mercedes W15 F1 car

George Russell has revealed Mercedes’ main issue with its 2024 Formula 1 car is “bouncing that we're seeing”, while Lewis Hamilton feels it is adrift of Red Bull and Ferrari.
Uuuhhhhh wat?

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Bouncing while testing the limits. Check car thread for context

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