Christian Horner under Investigation

[101FlyingDutchman]

Classic Red Bull!

They’ll never accuse any one of Horner, Marko or Verstapen for something!

Had it been a junior driver he would have been fired without even investigating him…just by the accusations

Embarrassing! I hope Ford takes action at least…

Wow…. It’s an independent barrister. Glad due process gets followed here. The current accusatory culture really is sweeping the world like the pandemic. One “wrong” word and you can be prosecuted/fired. We’ve literally been given advice at work about this very subject yesterday: motto: protect yourself

[proteus]

Hope his victim has the right support with the incoming abuse towards her from rbr fans

Well if the investigation was done fairly and if it was decided he did nothing wrong, who is the victim then? I have no clue what was happening here to be honest, reporters changed their story several times. And if i learned anything in recent years about journalists, it is that they love to alter stories for clicks, or even lie for forced agenda.

If Horner did what he was accused of doing, then shame on him and everybody else covering up the whole thing.

If it was the other way arround, shame on those who made it up.

[Wouter]

[Cs98]

Full statement

“The independent investigation into the allegations made against Mr Horner is complete, and Red Bull can confirm that the grievance has been dismissed. The complainant has a right of appeal. Red Bull is confident that the investigation has been fair, rigorous and impartial. The investigation report is confidential and contains the private information of the parties and third parties who assisted in the investigation, and therefore we will not be commenting further out of respect for all concerned. Red Bull will continue striving to meet the highest workplace standards.”

[f1isgood]

I would have to assume that if a settlement was agreed upon, the grievance would not have been dismissed. Since it is RB releasing this statement, they cannot misrepresent withdrawal of grievance and dismissal of grievance and it would, instead read as complaint withdrawn or something to that effect. Anyways if the accusations were true, we have a court case incoming if de Telegraaf is to be believed. Time will tell how this case will evolve.

For now it's time to go racing!

[f1jcw]

Classic Red Bull!

They’ll never accuse any one of Horner, Marko or Verstapen for something!

Had it been a junior driver he would have been fired without even investigating him…just by the accusations

Embarrassing! I hope Ford takes action at least…

Wow…. It’s an independent barrister. Glad due process gets followed here. The current accusatory culture really is sweeping the world like the pandemic. One “wrong” word and you can be prosecuted/fired. We’ve literally been given advice at work about this very subject yesterday: motto: protect yourself

Independent barrister hired by the Thai's, that then went missing.
The same Thai's that protected the killer of a policeman.
Shure, can't get anymore independent lol

[pantherxxx]

Finally. I'm sure the Horner haters are now sad, but it looks like that the mutiny is over.

[ispano6]

Would it be legal to file a defamation suit against Ford and Zac Brown?
Obviously they could have kept quiet, but decided to fuel the flame. It no doubt cast a "dark shadow" and defamed Horner.

[101FlyingDutchman]

Classic Red Bull!

They’ll never accuse any one of Horner, Marko or Verstapen for something!

Had it been a junior driver he would have been fired without even investigating him…just by the accusations

Embarrassing! I hope Ford takes action at least…

Wow…. It’s an independent barrister. Glad due process gets followed here. The current accusatory culture really is sweeping the world like the pandemic. One “wrong” word and you can be prosecuted/fired. We’ve literally been given advice at work about this very subject yesterday: motto: protect yourself

Independent barrister hired by the Thai's, that then went missing.
The same Thai's that protected the killer of a policeman.
Shure, can't get anymore independent lol

Never let emotion cloud your judgement….

[dans79]

Would it be legal to file a defamation suit against Ford and Zac Brown?
Obviously they could have kept quiet, but decided to fuel the flame. It no doubt cast a "dark shadow" and defamed Horner.

Not based on what they said!

[denyall]

Would it be legal to file a defamation suit against Ford and Zac Brown?
Obviously they could have kept quiet, but decided to fuel the flame. It no doubt cast a "dark shadow" and defamed Horner.

No way, because then the 150 page invest report goes into the public record via discovery.

[Cs98]

Would it be legal to file a defamation suit against Ford and Zac Brown?
Obviously they could have kept quiet, but decided to fuel the flame. It no doubt cast a "dark shadow" and defamed Horner.

They didn't defame him though, just the usual corporate BS speak of trying to signal your virtues without saying anything of substance. De Telegraaf on the other hand...

[f1jcw]

Wow…. It’s an independent barrister. Glad due process gets followed here. The current accusatory culture really is sweeping the world like the pandemic. One “wrong” word and you can be prosecuted/fired. We’ve literally been given advice at work about this very subject yesterday: motto: protect yourself

Independent barrister hired by the Thai's, that then went missing.
The same Thai's that protected the killer of a policeman.
Shure, can't get anymore independent lol

Never let emotion cloud your judgement….

Nope, just facts posted.

[Quantum]

Classic Red Bull!

They’ll never accuse any one of Horner, Marko or Verstapen for something!

Had it been a junior driver he would have been fired without even investigating him…just by the accusations

Embarrassing! I hope Ford takes action at least…

Wow…. It’s an independent barrister. Glad due process gets followed here. The current accusatory culture really is sweeping the world like the pandemic. One “wrong” word and you can be prosecuted/fired. We’ve literally been given advice at work about this very subject yesterday: motto: protect yourself

About that independent Barrister. 3 facts standout.
Chalerm Yoovidhya appointed, and took a vacation immediately after the interview with Horner, and was uncontactable by RB Gmbh to provide his findings immediately. On the surface it appears Yoovidhya might have instructed the Barrister to go on holiday, or knew they were going on holiday.
This report now becomes submissible evidence in court.
Unless the next course of action is to pay complainant off as is the way with Chalerm Yoovidhya.
What does he do if the complainant files with court?

It really also should be noted, Barristers have ZERO authority to judge any case. They provide legal arguments and advice. For transparency Red Bull must release their findings or this PR disaster is just going to fester.

[langedweil]

Independent barrister hired by the Thai's, that then went missing.
The same Thai's that protected the killer of a policeman.
Shure, can't get anymore independent lol

Never let emotion cloud your judgement….

Nope, just facts posted.

Often made mistake: taking opinions for facts ..