2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Earlier. RB15 or even 14.

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PapayaFan481 wrote:
27 Feb 2024, 19:33
franbatista123 wrote:
27 Feb 2024, 17:08
organic wrote:
27 Feb 2024, 16:51
Marko on 2025 seat from Kleine Zeitung @kleinezeitung

Not sure that it's motivating for other drivers to hear that the 2nd seat is "ejectable", but that's classic Marko. Going into 2024 i think Red Bull is in a very weird position... they want to replace Pérez but Norris has rejected them, which leaves Ricciardo as the 2nd option but there's a chance Tsunoda beats him and in turn doesn't justify Ricciardo for the 2nd seat, and they probably don't want Tsunoda. I take it Albon and Sainz are out of the equation as well.

This year i think a underperfoming Perez could throw the constructors away, but that's a topic for another thread.
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wickedz50 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 12:01
PapayaFan481 wrote:
27 Feb 2024, 19:33
franbatista123 wrote:
27 Feb 2024, 17:08


Not sure that it's motivating for other drivers to hear that the 2nd seat is "ejectable", but that's classic Marko. Going into 2024 i think Red Bull is in a very weird position... they want to replace Pérez but Norris has rejected them, which leaves Ricciardo as the 2nd option but there's a chance Tsunoda beats him and in turn doesn't justify Ricciardo for the 2nd seat, and they probably don't want Tsunoda. I take it Albon and Sainz are out of the equation as well.

This year i think a underperfoming Perez could throw the constructors away, but that's a topic for another thread.
"Hello, Helmut speaking"

"Hello, it's Fernando Alonso here....." 🤣
Are you sure it was not Sir Lewis here....?
Oh can you imagine Horner's face if he had to suddenly start saying nice things about Lewis!!
If I come across as blunt, I apologise, it's my ASD. Sometimes, like an F1 car aqua-planing, it gets out of my control.

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PapayaFan481 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 12:40
wickedz50 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 12:01
PapayaFan481 wrote:
27 Feb 2024, 19:33


"Hello, Helmut speaking"

"Hello, it's Fernando Alonso here....." 🤣
Are you sure it was not Sir Lewis here....?
Oh can you imagine Horner's face if he had to suddenly start saying nice things about Lewis!!
Isn't Marko looking for Max's wingman? :D

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PapayaFan481 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 12:40
Oh can you imagine Horner's face if he had to suddenly start saying nice things about Lewis!!
tbf, Horner's bitterness to Lewis stems from over a decade of Lewis essentially single-handedly destroying RedBull and Max on track. Who wouldn't be bitter. Horner is a great TP but even he has emotions. I'm sure at the end of the day though he respects Lewis greatly, at least as a sheer warrior.

Lewis has openly said he would love to compete in equal machinery against Max at RB, but for obvious reasons said Max would not share the same feeling. Understandable. So a Checo type of driver is what RB and Max will always be what they prefer to stick to.

Alonso has a slightly better chance for that seat than Lewis, but again, it would never happen. Again, for obvious reasons.

Imagine though if either of these two did get that seat in some never-gonna-happen alternate reality. One assured fact is the season finally wont be an already determined one-sided snore-fest :lol:

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isn't carlos a good option for RB?

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zeroday wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:18
PapayaFan481 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 12:40
Oh can you imagine Horner's face if he had to suddenly start saying nice things about Lewis!!
tbf, Horner's bitterness to Lewis stems from over a decade of Lewis essentially single-handedly destroying RedBull and Max on track.
Destruction is not letting your opponent win a single race, when you have the equipment to do so.

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Venturiation wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:20
isn't carlos a good option for RB?
Jos and Carlos Snr do not get on so I can imagine Jos vetoing that one.
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zeroday wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:18
PapayaFan481 wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 12:40
Oh can you imagine Horner's face if he had to suddenly start saying nice things about Lewis!!
tbf, Horner's bitterness to Lewis stems from over a decade of Lewis essentially single-handedly destroying RedBull and Max on track. Who wouldn't be bitter. Horner is a great TP but even he has emotions. I'm sure at the end of the day though he respects Lewis greatly, at least as a sheer warrior.

Lewis has openly said he would love to compete in equal machinery against Max at RB, but for obvious reasons said Max would not share the same feeling. Understandable. So a Checo type of driver is what RB and Max will always be what they prefer to stick to.

Alonso has a slightly better chance for that seat than Lewis, but again, it would never happen. Again, for obvious reasons.

Imagine though if either of these two did get that seat in some never-gonna-happen alternate reality. One assured fact is the season finally wont be an already determined one-sided snore-fest :lol:
This reads like fan fiction

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Venturiation wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:20
isn't carlos a good option for RB?
I think it is most likely he ends up replacing Perez. He is competent, fast enough to be a good second driver and has shown he can handle driving next to very fast drivers without having a complete breakdown.

Carlos' and Max' fathers are in different positions now. One's son has fulfilled his potential and the other's son is basically without a good seat right now, so I would assume it would not be an issue unlike back in 2015 where Carlos was relatively close to Max even if the latter had virtually no experience with cars, and getting the RB seat was the goal given Mercedes was a no go.
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f1isgood wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 17:28
Venturiation wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:20
isn't carlos a good option for RB?
I think it is most likely he ends up replacing Perez. He is competent, fast enough to be a good second driver and has shown he can handle driving next to very fast drivers without having a complete breakdown.

Carlos' and Max' fathers are in different positions now. One's son has fulfilled his potential and the other's son is basically without a good seat right now, so I would assume it would not be an issue unlike back in 2015 where Carlos was relatively close to Max even if the latter had virtually no experience with cars, and getting the RB seat was the goal given Mercedes was a no go.
Also, Max is his own man. I think him and Carlos get on very well off the race track too. Don’t think he cares too much if Carlos were to come in. Jos ability to influence things has been way overstated. In the early toro rosso - rb period sure but not anymore

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They will have to do a race sim of sorts in FP2 so it won't be much longer to find out what is what.
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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 19:29
They will have to do a race sim of sorts in FP2 so it won't be much longer to find out what is what.
Yup. Also I wouldn't look at quali sims as much to determine the gap: Ferrari are talking about struggling in low speed with understeer so I think they're expecting to be weaker in quali than race trim this year, rb19 style. So the quali sims might exaggerate the gap

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f1isgood wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 17:28
Venturiation wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:20
isn't carlos a good option for RB?
I think it is most likely he ends up replacing Perez. He is competent, fast enough to be a good second driver and has shown he can handle driving next to very fast drivers without having a complete breakdown.

Carlos' and Max' fathers are in different positions now. One's son has fulfilled his potential and the other's son is basically without a good seat right now, so I would assume it would not be an issue unlike back in 2015 where Carlos was relatively close to Max even if the latter had virtually no experience with cars, and getting the RB seat was the goal given Mercedes was a no go.
I don't think Jos dictates who should be hired or not. It's Marko and Horner. I won't be surprised if Sainz replaces Perez. He would be a good fit and knows the position Max has attained at Red Bull and can be comfortable in being the second driver with an aim to seal WCC. He is intelligent and a good race driver. No reason why he can't fit.

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mendis wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 19:45
f1isgood wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 17:28
Venturiation wrote:
28 Feb 2024, 15:20
isn't carlos a good option for RB?
I think it is most likely he ends up replacing Perez. He is competent, fast enough to be a good second driver and has shown he can handle driving next to very fast drivers without having a complete breakdown.

Carlos' and Max' fathers are in different positions now. One's son has fulfilled his potential and the other's son is basically without a good seat right now, so I would assume it would not be an issue unlike back in 2015 where Carlos was relatively close to Max even if the latter had virtually no experience with cars, and getting the RB seat was the goal given Mercedes was a no go.
I don't think Jos dictates who should be hired or not. It's Marko and Horner. I won't be surprised if Sainz replaces Perez. He would be a good fit and knows the position Max has attained at Red Bull and can be comfortable in being the second driver with an aim to seal WCC. He is intelligent and a good race driver. No reason why he can't fit.
Marko already essentially ruled him out. Says that he's not really an option as he will want a contract much earlier than RB will want to decide. RB usually wait until the end of the season