F1 drivers are all for themselves when careers are at stake. I think Yuki is just behaving like an F1 driver, under those circumstances, it was clear both Ric and Yuki had no chance of finishing P10 unless there was an incident involving Kevin Zhou and Lance. I suppose if Max was in Yuki's position, RB team would not even try.beerjoystick wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 04:43Yuki's behaviour is pretty unacceptable and highlights a fundamental anger issue. If he can't reel it in it will compromise his chances for further opportunities in the sport
I don't recall seeing other drivers act like he did on the cooldown lap. It's far beyond the usual or accepted team order disappointment.CHT wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:06F1 drivers are all for themselves when careers are at stake. I think Yuki is just behaving like an F1 driver, under those circumstances, it was clear both Ric and Yuki had no chance of finishing P10 unless there was an incident involving Kevin Zhou and Lance. I suppose if Max was in Yuki's position, RB team would not even try.beerjoystick wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 04:43Yuki's behaviour is pretty unacceptable and highlights a fundamental anger issue. If he can't reel it in it will compromise his chances for further opportunities in the sport
I think the team order was unfair to him, and the team shouldn't have put them in that position in the first place. I am sympathetic to Yuki not wanting to move aside. I have no problems with his radio messages, but when he starts dive bombing his teammate after the race is over, I have to think twice before defending him. It is not a level headed way to deal with the issue at hand!ispano6 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:53Think Max, Leclerc, Sainz, Alonso, Ham. Racers don't move over, it's a racing ego thing. Max and Lando snap back just as much as Yuki does. Yuki's emotion's come out more raw because he's not using his native tongue, probably a lack of vocabulary more so than diction. Looking at this weekend, Yuki was the stronger driver no matter how "immature" you want to call him.
Lando moved over for Daniel and vice versa in Daniel’s first year at McLaren. Team players know it isn’t all about them.ispano6 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:53Think Max, Leclerc, Sainz, Alonso, Ham. Racers don't move over, it's a racing ego thing. Max and Lando snap back just as much as Yuki does. Yuki's emotion's come out more raw because he's not using his native tongue, probably a lack of vocabulary more so than diction. Looking at this weekend, Yuki was the stronger driver no matter how "immature" you want to call him.
Teams ask drivers to swap positions when on different strategies all the time, this is part of being in a team sport.CaribouBread wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:58I think the team order was unfair to him, and the team shouldn't have put them in that position in the first place. I am sympathetic to Yuki not wanting to move aside. I have no problems with his radio messages, but when he starts dive bombing his teammate after the race is over, I have to think twice before defending him. It is not a level headed way to deal with the issue at hand!ispano6 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:53Think Max, Leclerc, Sainz, Alonso, Ham. Racers don't move over, it's a racing ego thing. Max and Lando snap back just as much as Yuki does. Yuki's emotion's come out more raw because he's not using his native tongue, probably a lack of vocabulary more so than diction. Looking at this weekend, Yuki was the stronger driver no matter how "immature" you want to call him.
And I think sometimes those requests are unfair.djos wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 06:02Teams ask drivers to swap positions when on different strategies all the time, this is part of being in a team sport.CaribouBread wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:58I think the team order was unfair to him, and the team shouldn't have put them in that position in the first place. I am sympathetic to Yuki not wanting to move aside. I have no problems with his radio messages, but when he starts dive bombing his teammate after the race is over, I have to think twice before defending him. It is not a level headed way to deal with the issue at hand!ispano6 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:53Think Max, Leclerc, Sainz, Alonso, Ham. Racers don't move over, it's a racing ego thing. Max and Lando snap back just as much as Yuki does. Yuki's emotion's come out more raw because he's not using his native tongue, probably a lack of vocabulary more so than diction. Looking at this weekend, Yuki was the stronger driver no matter how "immature" you want to call him.
Fair doesn’t have anything to do with it.CaribouBread wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 06:06And I think sometimes those requests are unfair.djos wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 06:02Teams ask drivers to swap positions when on different strategies all the time, this is part of being in a team sport.CaribouBread wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:58
I think the team order was unfair to him, and the team shouldn't have put them in that position in the first place. I am sympathetic to Yuki not wanting to move aside. I have no problems with his radio messages, but when he starts dive bombing his teammate after the race is over, I have to think twice before defending him. It is not a level headed way to deal with the issue at hand!
You definitely can't get far without your team's backing and yelling at them. And then I think about Yuki in the car wringing the hell out of it and catching every opponent that he gets undercut by and getting held up. When you're giving 120% after your team has managed to pit you out of points contention and then to move over for the slower teammate is not something a racer just swallows, while within DRS of passing no less. The timing was ill with the blue flag for Max. We're here in the luxury of watching the race but Yuki is doing the work in the heat of the moment so cut him some slack.djos wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 06:00Lando moved over for Daniel and vice versa in Daniel’s first year at McLaren. Team players know it isn’t all about them.ispano6 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 05:53Think Max, Leclerc, Sainz, Alonso, Ham. Racers don't move over, it's a racing ego thing. Max and Lando snap back just as much as Yuki does. Yuki's emotion's come out more raw because he's not using his native tongue, probably a lack of vocabulary more so than diction. Looking at this weekend, Yuki was the stronger driver no matter how "immature" you want to call him.
Team order in competitive sports is very actually very rare unless it is necessary. In this case, there was really nothing to fight for because P10 was certainly out of reach.