2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q

Was Ferrari running more or less downforce than Red Bull in FPs?

[scuderiabrandon]

Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q

Was Ferrari running more or less downforce than Red Bull in FPs?

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[SoulPancake13]

Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q

Was Ferrari running more or less downforce than Red Bull in FPs?

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Looking at their rear wings, it looks quite even no?

[scuderiabrandon]

Was Ferrari running more or less downforce than Red Bull in FPs?

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Looking at their rear wings, it looks quite even no?

I would lean towards Ferrari being more loaded, especially through the mainplane

[Vanja #66]

Ferrari were massive 8-10kmh down on straights in their sims vs RB. On his final sim lap, Leclerc was suddenly 4-5kmh quicker on the two back straights and accelerated faster everywhere, only on that lap. Not sure if all laps were on lower mode than RB or they were same and that one was higher mode.

Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q

Very, very strange if they change their wings in FP3 only. They did that in Vegas, but every Vegas session was at almost the same conditions at night.

On the other hand, they had negative deg compared to AMR...

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Looking at their rear wings, it looks quite even no?

I would lean towards Ferrari being more loaded, especially through the mainplane


https://ibb.co/pnS7Y5R

yeah, saw this and the image posted in the race thread, I was wrong haha

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Top speed and the 240kph+ curve looks the same to me between the RBR and FER cars. At least on a single lap I don't think they have anything to do to catch up there with the current wing setup.



race sim picture above here.

* NOR on Hards, LEC on Softs, everyone else on Mediums.
* PIA kind of all over the place, maybe traffic, but did have a bit of degradation on mediums, still would be low 1.35s without the outliers.
* NOR on Hards could keep the pace of the rest.
* ALO had the 2nd longest sim with 11 laps, and showed some degradation
* PER all over the place with the longest race sim, not a lot of deg, but the lack of lap consistency in the middle helps degradation. good pace
* RUS/HAM basically ran the same thing for a very short number of laps, seemed pretty equivalent to me around 1.34.4/5
* SAI deg looks quite good and wasn't excessively short, compared to others, so there could be a lot of room for time improvement there.
* LEC on softs was starting to show some deg towards the end, but then placed that 1.33.8, could probably have gone faster earlier on.
* VER pace is 0.5s ahead of everyone else, but it's not that much ahead of PER if you take out PER outliers. Very good deg of course, but times were slowly converging to his time from at least PER/SAI/LEC and maybe the Mercs.

Could be Max doesn't need to worry about early stints too much and he builds the gap, but then pace differences come a bit closer as the stint goes.

RBR > FER - MER > AMR > MCL

is my pecking order based on this. Up to MER to demonstrate they can keep the pace on full fuel when they have less fuel on (unlike in Bahrain).

[Vanja #66]

Sounds like Sainz is not well yet, hopefully he recovers by Sunday. Otherwise, it's another race with 1 and a half Ferrari on the grid...

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[FDD]

Ferrari were massive 8-10kmh down on straights in their sims vs RB. On his final sim lap, Leclerc was suddenly 4-5kmh quicker on the two back straights and accelerated faster everywhere, only on that lap. Not sure if all laps were on lower mode than RB or they were same and that one was higher mode.

Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q

Very, very strange if they change their wings in FP3 only. They did that in Vegas, but every Vegas session was at almost the same conditions at night.

On the other hand, they had negative deg compared to AMR...

Fakepivot wrote:
"that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode."
If is this right then it is not strange that Lec had suden 4-5km/h higher speed.

[Vanja #66]

Fakepivot wrote:
"that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode."
If is this right then it is not strange that Lec had suden 4-5km/h higher speed.

Yeah, that's it, thanks.

So the full quote on load levels from Vasseur is

Regarding the level of aerodynamic load used, I believe we will all converge on the same level, with a few exceptions. We worked in this way to get the drivers well adapted to the track. There will be a significant improvement in the track from today to tomorrow, and I am sure we will all have the same level of load tomorrow.

Reads like they wanted to work on approximately the same grip levels as expected tomorrow by using more wing. Maybe I'm reading it wrong? If they are so confident going into the race with 1 hour on lower wing, they must have complete confidence in simulator work... Still feels to risky in my view.

[Vinlarr89]

Fakepivot wrote:
"that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode."
If is this right then it is not strange that Lec had suden 4-5km/h higher speed.

Yeah, that's it, thanks.

So the full quote on load levels from Vasseur is

Regarding the level of aerodynamic load used, I believe we will all converge on the same level, with a few exceptions. We worked in this way to get the drivers well adapted to the track. There will be a significant improvement in the track from today to tomorrow, and I am sure we will all have the same level of load tomorrow.

Reads like they wanted to work on approximately the same grip levels as expected tomorrow by using more wing. Maybe I'm reading it wrong? If they are so confident going into the race with 1 hour on lower wing, they must have complete confidence in simulator work... Still feels to risky in my view.

I guess if the lower load rear wing did not work as expected they would revert to FP2 setup?

[scuderiabrandon]

Fakepivot wrote:
"that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode."
If is this right then it is not strange that Lec had suden 4-5km/h higher speed.

Yeah, that's it, thanks.

So the full quote on load levels from Vasseur is

Regarding the level of aerodynamic load used, I believe we will all converge on the same level, with a few exceptions. We worked in this way to get the drivers well adapted to the track. There will be a significant improvement in the track from today to tomorrow, and I am sure we will all have the same level of load tomorrow.

Reads like they wanted to work on approximately the same grip levels as expected tomorrow by using more wing. Maybe I'm reading it wrong? If they are so confident going into the race with 1 hour on lower wing, they must have complete confidence in simulator work... Still feels to risky in my view.

I guess if the lower load rear wing did not work as expected they would revert to FP2 setup?

precisely

[scuderiabrandon]

Sainz' long run on the medium is fairly unrepresentitive in my hones opinion. Obviously he is not feeling well and hasn't looked entirely on it from the get go. Understandable.

Charles on the other hand was 0.5s off on a 7 lap old soft, which he used for his qualy sims. It still seemed like the tyres had life in them, did his fastest lap on his final lap of the stint. Can afford to push harder earlier for sure, which would lower his mean laptime considerably. Medium is still the preferred starting tyre in my opinion.

I'm trying to be conservative in my predictions and say were at the most 2/3 tenths off Verstappen.

[FDD]

So the full quote on load levels from Vasseur is

Regarding the level of aerodynamic load used, I believe we will all converge on the same level, with a few exceptions. We worked in this way to get the drivers well adapted to the track. There will be a significant improvement in the track from today to tomorrow, and I am sure we will all have the same level of load tomorrow.

Reads like they wanted to work on approximately the same grip levels as expected tomorrow by using more wing. Maybe I'm reading it wrong? If they are so confident going into the race with 1 hour on lower wing, they must have complete confidence in simulator work... Still feels to risky in my view.

I didn't "read" that, good point.

[FDD]

Sainz' long run on the medium is fairly unrepresentitive in my hones opinion. Obviously he is not feeling well and hasn't looked entirely on it from the get go. Understandable.

Charles on the other hand was 0.5s off on a 7 lap old soft, which he used for his qualy sims. It still seemed like the tyres had life in them, did his fastest lap on his final lap of the stint. Can afford to push harder earlier for sure, which would lower his mean laptime considerably. Medium is still the preferred starting tyre in my opinion.

I'm trying to be conservative in my predictions and say were at the most 2/3 tenths off Verstappen.

Considering that the car is all new and they still have to read it, according to me 2/3 tents of Max are excellent result.
Also to me the results in first 3-5 events are not priority, but learning the car in order to bring effective upgrades.
Yes, it is excellent to extract the max results from the material they have at the moment.