2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Vanja #66
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Sevach wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 23:37
It would be curious to see where the car would've ended up with the low downforce rear wing, enough to close this gap? And how it would go through the infield?

Last year Leclerc coming from way behind looked way faster than the cars ahead of him, i wonder if the team will go for softs again.
And hopefully no problem working the hards this time.

Also a 2 stopper would it work? Soft-medium-soft.
It was a good choice to go on Softs last year and it may be good choice for Ollie tomorrow. In my view, Leclerc should start on Mediums and keep the pace to run for 30 laps if needed. Let Max steamroll ahead and wait for SC to switch tyres. If someone overtakes Leclerc, also best to let them go.

They had better deg than RB yesterday in the sim, the way to use it to your advantage is to extend and wait for SC to work in your favour. If it's an early SC, extend the second stint and wait for others to change again. If there's no SC (unlikely) then do a sprint in 2nd stint. Two SCs then work against you, in which case it's a sprint again after the 2nd SC and those straights are long and DRS is strong.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:08
Sevach wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 23:37
It would be curious to see where the car would've ended up with the low downforce rear wing, enough to close this gap? And how it would go through the infield?

Last year Leclerc coming from way behind looked way faster than the cars ahead of him, i wonder if the team will go for softs again.
And hopefully no problem working the hards this time.

Also a 2 stopper would it work? Soft-medium-soft.
It was a good choice to go on Softs last year and it may be good choice for Ollie tomorrow. In my view, Leclerc should start on Mediums and keep the pace to run for 30 laps if needed. Let Max steamroll ahead and wait for SC to switch tyres. If someone overtakes Leclerc, also best to let them go.

They had better deg than RB yesterday in the sim, the way to use it to your advantage is to extend and wait for SC to work in your favour. If it's an early SC, extend the second stint and wait for others to change again. If there's no SC (unlikely) then do a sprint in 2nd stint. Two SCs then work against you, in which case it's a sprint again after the 2nd SC and those straights are long and DRS is strong.
Do you think if he could get 30 laps out of the mediums, and a safety car bunch everyone back up, he could switch to softs and stand a chance for 20 laps on a light car? Deg seems so good that it’s possible?

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Vanja #66 wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:08
Sevach wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 23:37
It would be curious to see where the car would've ended up with the low downforce rear wing, enough to close this gap? And how it would go through the infield?

Last year Leclerc coming from way behind looked way faster than the cars ahead of him, i wonder if the team will go for softs again.
And hopefully no problem working the hards this time.

Also a 2 stopper would it work? Soft-medium-soft.
It was a good choice to go on Softs last year and it may be good choice for Ollie tomorrow. In my view, Leclerc should start on Mediums and keep the pace to run for 30 laps if needed. Let Max steamroll ahead and wait for SC to switch tyres. If someone overtakes Leclerc, also best to let them go.

They had better deg than RB yesterday in the sim, the way to use it to your advantage is to extend and wait for SC to work in your favour. If it's an early SC, extend the second stint and wait for others to change again. If there's no SC (unlikely) then do a sprint in 2nd stint. Two SCs then work against you, in which case it's a sprint again after the 2nd SC and those straights are long and DRS is strong.
Better deg in sim? Please try te be less biased in your views. I like your analyses but remarks like this are putting some doubt into how objective your analyses are.

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Bearman ending up only 0,5 away from P1 during Q2 and only having one Practice session is immense…! It should probably be ringing quite a lot of bells inside Ferrari and the F1 paddock in general!
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Can you challenge using data that you don’t agree instead of using ad hominem?

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:19
Bearman ending up only 0,5 away from P1 during Q2 and only having one Practice session is immense…! It should probably be ringing quite a lot of bells inside Ferrari and the F1 paddock in general!
He's already booked SIX FP1 rookie sessions with Haas this season, triple the obligatory amount, they are preparing him for 2025, I think that bit is clear.

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Cassius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:18
Better deg in sim? Please try te be less biased in your views. I like your analyses but remarks like this are putting some doubt into how objective your analyses are.
LEC had negative degradation on softs with similar age (and 2 fast laps) to VER mediums on flat pace. That's extremely promising.

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:10
Do you think if he could get 30 laps out of the mediums, and a safety car bunch everyone back up, he could switch to softs and stand a chance for 20 laps on a light car? Deg seems so good that it’s possible?
Can't say for sure about Mediums for 30 laps, but last year he did 16 laps on Softs in 1st stint without any deg. 20 laps on Softs in lighter car is basically guaranteed if they understand completely how they did it last year and took steps to that end this year. And if 20 laps on C4 Softs are there, can't see why 30 laps on C3 Mediums wouldn't be.

Later last year, Max and RB started doing quicker and shorter 1st stints and took it from there and adapted strategy according to how each race developed. This is a good thing to do, but makes you vulnerable if you are not in the lead and someone else can force your hand
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dialtone wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:24
Cassius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:18
Better deg in sim? Please try te be less biased in your views. I like your analyses but remarks like this are putting some doubt into how objective your analyses are.
LEC had negative degradation on softs with similar age (and 2 fast laps) to VER mediums on flat pace. That's extremely promising.
The 33.8 was with different engine setting. Also LEC did only 7 laps. Max continued to go faster, starting with a 34.3 and ending with a 33.7, so wouldn’t say it was better.

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Cassius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:32
dialtone wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:24
Cassius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:18
Better deg in sim? Please try te be less biased in your views. I like your analyses but remarks like this are putting some doubt into how objective your analyses are.
LEC had negative degradation on softs with similar age (and 2 fast laps) to VER mediums on flat pace. That's extremely promising.
The 33.8 was with different engine setting. Also LEC did only 7 laps. Max continued to go faster, starting with a 34.3 and ending with a 33.7, so wouldn’t say it was better.
That is the engine setting they will be running during the race

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Cassius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:32
dialtone wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:24
Cassius wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:18
Better deg in sim? Please try te be less biased in your views. I like your analyses but remarks like this are putting some doubt into how objective your analyses are.
LEC had negative degradation on softs with similar age (and 2 fast laps) to VER mediums on flat pace. That's extremely promising.
The 33.8 was with different engine setting. Also LEC did only 7 laps. Max continued to go faster, starting with a 34.3 and ending with a 33.7, so wouldn’t say it was better.
LEC had 15 laps on those softs when he pitted, VER 20 on meds. The engine setting is irrelevant, the important part is that those tires could sustain that lap time despite being 14 lap old.

As per the progression, not sure I would say LEC was necessarily better but Softs 15 laps vs Mediums 20 laps is favorable for the Softs, that's a soft tire 80% done vs a medium that is still only 60% of life.

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Watching Max pole lap you can really appreciate RB 20 superior rear grip. Incredible.

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Ferrari should increase its catering budget and get upgrades as soon as they have confidence in their correlation. Ending this season on par with RB20(after pushing them early on so they don't stop bringing upgrades) and having a good development pipeline for 2025 is the only way they can realistically challenge.

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jambuka wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 01:18
Ferrari should increase its catering budget and get upgrades as soon as they have confidence in their correlation. Ending this season on par with RB20(after pushing them early on so they don't stop bringing upgrades) and having a good development pipeline for 2025 is the only way they can realistically challenge.
Highly unlikely that this is going to happen, even though i hope so.

We need to make moves for 2026, no margin for error.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
09 Mar 2024, 00:08
In my view, Leclerc should start on Mediums and keep the pace to run for 30 laps if needed. Let Max steamroll ahead and wait for SC to switch tyres. If someone overtakes Leclerc, also best to let them go.
Max won't steamroll anything, he will comfortably drive to a delta once he has a few sec advantage and wait for Leclerc (or whoever is threatening him the most) to pit, then cover him. There is absolutely not reason for RB to pit earlier and looking at last races they never do. (or if they do, they have a good reason and usually they are right)

These passive - waiting strategies never really work. RB showed in the past how to pressure a slightly faster opponent, but they always did it with aggressive attacking strategy. That is the way to go if you are slightly behind. Try to make them make a mistake.