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[Vinlarr89]

I agree. I think that Ferrari have probably gone too far the other way now which is causing them to be slow in the early part of races due to being unable to switch the tyres on. This did affect RB at times during the RB18/19 although seems the 20 has cured this.

I think Ferrari could have gone more aggressive with the setup as when the 3 cars were parked up at the end of the race the RB tyres looked worn and blistered, the FER looked pristine!

It’s a matter of time to find the right setup that works the best. I think next week will naturally switch the tyres on a bit quicker due to track conditions.

Suzukas high deg circuit could also be interesting

[Rikhart]

Absolutely amazing showing by Bearman, hats off to the kid. Far exceeded my expectations.

[scarnegie96]

Gap to Max on lap 27 (after Leclerc cleared Norris): 15.6s
Gap to Max on the last lap: 18.6s

Verstappen lost some 3-5s in traffic, he had to lap 5-6 cars i think. He did it carefully and then tyres cooled down, slowing him down. Then he didnt take any chances anymore, even with FL attempt on last lap it wasnt really full on attack. I'd say real gap is anywhere from 3-5 tenths depending on various circumstances.

That seems fair, I was watching the Ver, Per and Lec’s lap timing’s when all had free air. Occasionally Charles came close to Perez but both Red Bulls routinely pulled 4ish tenths every lap.

[scuderiabrandon]

As for Australia, looking at how much the RB20 has improved in the traction zones compared to the RB19, one could actually say it's now the class of the field in that regard, it will be incredibly hard to beat them there. I personally feel if we continue to struggle that much in the traction zones we'd probably be closer to the 3rd quickest team than to Red Bull.

How is Red Bull class of the field in traction zones? I assume you mean slow speed

I would say traction zones not low speed, since we can generally keep up on th brakes & through mid corner in slow speed but pretty much lose all of it on exit. Ferrari & Aston Martin are the closest in the traction zoens but still not very often able to beat a Red Bull.

And I personally feel you'll have this confirmed in Australia.

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JEDDAH TURN 1-2

[Silent Storm]

@scuderiabrandon To me that looks like a driving style difference, Max has a slow in fast out approach while Leclerc has the opposite.
This could be due to car differences as well... So you maybe right.

[organic]

Perez's traces may be more reliable when looking at low speed traction as Max has the style that always favours the exit

[scuderiabrandon]

Perez's traces may be more reliable when looking at low speed traction as Max has the style that always favours the exit

This difference to me is far beyond driving style

[DoctorRadio]

Gap to Max on lap 27 (after Leclerc cleared Norris): 15.6s
Gap to Max on the last lap: 18.6s

Verstappen lost some 3-5s in traffic, he had to lap 5-6 cars i think. He did it carefully and then tyres cooled down, slowing him down. Then he didnt take any chances anymore, even with FL attempt on last lap it wasnt really full on attack. I'd say real gap is anywhere from 3-5 tenths depending on various circumstances.

Just to post Ver hit traffic on lap 43 and the gap was 20.5s, so that is 0.3s/lap which is reasonable for the tyres of Ferrari when heated up properly and the best phase of Leclerc’s tyres had still to come (end of the race), in fact Marko acknowledged their deg on the hards was worse than expected.
Lec said 3-4 tenths on average after the race.
It’s possible in the last laps the difference in pace was basically non existent based on the above.

[LetHimTrough]

Ferrari had a similar approach with the SF75.

Like in Austria when Red Bull was way quicker in the beginning of the stints and Charles got Max everytime later in the stint.

Although now the difference between cars is bigger.

[dialtone]

We can’t judge traction appropriately from Jeddah when Ferrari had the wrong setup to maximize tire warmup which is key to rear traction.

You may want to compare last laps, but then Max had no tires and LEC could go another race distance on those.

It will be a few races until Ferrari gets their car, hopefully it’ll be next race.

[dialtone]

We can’t judge traction appropriately from Jeddah when Ferrari had the wrong setup to maximize tire warmup which is key to rear traction.

You may want to compare last laps, but then Max had no tires and LEC could go another race distance on those.

It will be a few races until Ferrari gets their car, hopefully it’ll be next race.

[SoulPancake13]

We can’t judge traction appropriately from Jeddah when Ferrari had the wrong setup to maximize tire warmup which is key to rear traction.

You may want to compare last laps, but then Max had no tires and LEC could go another race distance on those.

It will be a few races until Ferrari gets their car, hopefully it’ll be next race.

Wasn't traction for RB20 still stronger in Bahrain too though?

[dialtone]

We can’t judge traction appropriately from Jeddah when Ferrari had the wrong setup to maximize tire warmup which is key to rear traction.

You may want to compare last laps, but then Max had no tires and LEC could go another race distance on those.

It will be a few races until Ferrari gets their car, hopefully it’ll be next race.

Wasn't traction for RB20 still stronger in Bahrain too though?

Leclerc setup was worse in T1 but better in S2-3. Sainz setup wasn't as bad in T1 IIRC. So I think they were still dealing with setup compromises. I do think there was a clear advantage in acceleration up to 240kph for RedBull, then Ferrari would take over.

[Xyz22]

The issues Leclerc had this WE:

- Struggled to warm up the tyres both in quali and in the race
- Lack of consistent balance for the entire race which is probably RB biggest strength in this ruleset
- In general, lack of pure performance compared to RB

The first two can be improved with more know how of the car and setup work. Third will require performance upgrades.

[jambuka]

Ferrari needs to fastrack upgrades. Like get tall the upgrades till summer 2025 by race 15 this year. RB are going to bring big upgrades to imola and beyond. Else Ferrari will always find themselves 4/5 tenths behind.