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Do you have any idea why certain teams "scrub" sets of tyres for the race such as AMR? You could see it in the Pirelli strategy graph of this race as well. What could be the possible advantages/disadvantages of doing so? To a non engineer like me it seems kind of counter intuitive but there has to be a reason why they keep doing it.
It seems the first heat cycle going through the tyre is very important and if it's put through aggressive use like Q3 lap it loses its longevity. So my guess is some teams want to do this in a controlled manner and then they aren't afraid to push hard from the first lap of the race. Or maybe they just want to scrub-off those top layers with the best grip so they don't provide false feeling with the tyre being better in early laps. On the other hand, seems now only Aston does it, so maybe its some other benefit they are seeing
Putting a heat cycle through the tires will make the rubber a little firmer once it cools. Tempering. Applies to almost anything, even chocolate
Helps with durability of the tire in the race, but it probably affects immediate performance levels from it.
Could also make the tires less sensitive to overheating at the start of a fast stint.
I may be wrong, but I feel like Alonso (for example) starts his stints a little faster than LeClerc, who generally brings the tires in slower over 3 laps at least.
Putting a heat cycle through the tires will make the rubber a little firmer once it cools. Tempering. Applies to almost anything, even chocolate
Helps with durability of the tire in the race, but it probably affects immediate performance levels from it.
Could also make the tires less sensitive to overheating at the start of a fast stint.
I may be wrong, but I feel like Alonso (for example) starts his stints a little faster than LeClerc, who generally brings the tires in slower over 3 laps at least.
I would say the opposite...the explanation for the Stroll crash was that the Astons had issues at the start to get up to speed. Which would hint that they are missing the peak of the new tire. As you explain it due to the scrubbing the tire lasts longer, but has a lower initial performance.
So I understand that McLaren scrubbed the hard, but scrubbing the mediums for the start is a bit odd to me...
Most material will have a graduation of sorts from it's manufacturing process.
Steel, Aluminium alloy, castings, glass, rubber, plastics etc. From moulding, heat treatment, mechanical forming (rolling, forging) in which the skin can hold significant differences to internal structure.
A flapjack makes excellent example of same ingredients, but with skin on top after cooling, softer interior, perhaps a crisper base depending on the pan and oven arrangements its cooked with. A simple loaf of bread too.
Whether they can leverage these differences is largely dependent on what they understand to be their deficiencies of their chassis balance.
AM seem to be chasing durability, accepting potentially lower peak, Ferrari understandable in being suspicious of longevity given their characteristics in 22/23 and still look fearful of the significant drop off they had compromise them before through a tire stint.
Ferrari obviously targeted tire life with design and setup, but still confidence in just how fast they can access a tire's performance seems to linger.
what kind of Tyre are those? Tyre used in 2022 season or some kind of demo Tyres??
All driver training/demo runs on 2+ years old cars are run on Demo Pirelli Tyres.
This is also allowed for F1 if they want during the season, but I think it is also included in Budget Cap after the season starts, so teams avoid doing this. With 24 races on the calendar, drivers get to drive F1 cars for about 15000km a year + various testing, it is usually enough to keep them used to driving and high G forces
I believe in this case this is to give Bearman a better prep in case he needs to drive again in Australia. He'll also most likely do a lot of simulator work
Ferrari needs to be extremely aggressive and bring upgrades in upcoming races if they want to catch RB. LEC needs to push all the time and not care about tire wear. Driving slowly to improve tire wear is just masking the issue.
I think we have some narrative that somehow Lecler was not pushing while RB gave it all. RB was also not pushing. It was smart to save tire in case of safety car. However, do you really think that ferrari would not push and try to be within 5 seconds with Perez if they could. They were simply slower here and they could not challenge RB at this track.
Ferrari needs to be extremely aggressive and bring upgrades in upcoming races if they want to catch RB. LEC needs to push all the time and not care about tire wear. Driving slowly to improve tire wear is just masking the issue.
Modern F1 is tire management race when it comes down to it. You could get away with pushing 100% from race start in the Schumacher-era but not today.
This year the car is "consistent" between quali and race for the first time since 2018 i think.
We are 0.3s slower than RB in quali and probably like 0.35/0.4s slower in the race, which is in range. That's really great considering what we had last year with the SF 23. The car also looks to be competent in pretty much every area (of course there are strong and weak points) with no major weaknesses like massive drag or terrible performance in specific corners.
This is again good news as we saw in the past teams losing the plot trying to reduce a lot of drag for example. We need to add more "usable" downforce and therefore raw performance to the car.
This year the car is "consistent" between quali and race for the first time since 2018 i think.
We are 0.3s slower than RB in quali and probably like 0.35/0.4s slower in the race, which is in range. That's really great considering what we had last year with the SF 23. The car also looks to be competent in pretty much every area (of course there are strong and weak points) with no major weaknesses like massive drag or terrible performance in specific corners.
This is again good news as we saw in the past teams losing the plot trying to reduce a lot of drag for example. We need to add more "usable" downforce and therefore raw performance to the car.
Agreed. People including me who said that the car looks basic, that may be from overbody. But underneath the car is where most of the magic has. Probably repackaged internals too. This year's Ferrari has a great base to build on and from there to try and catch Red Bull at some point.
Ferrari needs to be extremely aggressive and bring upgrades in upcoming races if they want to catch RB. LEC needs to push all the time and not care about tire wear. Driving slowly to improve tire wear is just masking the issue.
Modern F1 is tire management race when it comes down to it. You could get away with pushing 100% from race start in the Schumacher-era but not today.
The days of 100% pushing died with refuelling unfortunately. Cars starting on the grid in quali trim changed the dynamics of the racing altogether, often pitting after 6-7 laps meant the likes of Schumi pushing quali lap after quali lap to break away.
You’re right, these days winning races is about managing tyres effectively. What I would say, is Ferrari are probably managing too conservatively at the moment, leclerc should not be able to set the fastest lap on 40 lap hard tyres tow or no tow.
