2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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So much focus on Newey, while he would be the first to say that he doesn't create the car on his own.

The car itself is only 1 piece of the puzzle anyway. Until Ferrari can operate every aspect as well as RBR, they aren't putting themselves in the fight.

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Formu1auno says a small update to rear/rear wing this weekend

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Looks like same wing setup as Bahrain to me…

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Carlos will give it a go.

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Sevach wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 08:34
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/17 ... 62460?s=20

Carlos will give it a go.
Even if he feels 100% under normal conditions I think he should reconsider. You never know when you might have a crash and with his recent operation I dont think it will be a good thing for him. If something goes south, he might miss more races than in case he decides to wait this one out.

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That a driver, any driver, in this situation is said that "he will give it a go" It means that he has been cleared to race medically. Which is all that counts, this as medical clearance to race would have also taken the consequences (risk) od an accident will have on said driver recovery condition.

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Sevach wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 08:34
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/17 ... 62460?s=20

Carlos will give it a go.
Isn't it unnecessary for a driver that has nothing to lose or prove? It's ok if there is a title fight on the line but in this scenario, he can take it easy and get fully fit and allow the wounds to heal.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 20:20
Xyz22 wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 15:40
Ferrari has to do everything to get Newey if possible.
Why? RB owes its dominance to Wolff far more than Newey :)
Guys, i know Ferrari has very capable people around, but we are talking about Adrian Newey. It would be a great story to have one of the greatest designer of all time working with the most successful team ever in Formula 1. Also we can't deny his skills and capabilities.

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Xyz22 wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 11:21
Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 20:20
Xyz22 wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 15:40
Ferrari has to do everything to get Newey if possible.
Why? RB owes its dominance to Wolff far more than Newey :)
Guys, i know Ferrari has very capable people around, but we are talking about Adrian Newey. It would be a great story to have one of the greatest designer of all time working with the most successful team ever in Formula 1. Also we can't deny his skills and capabilities.
Adrian Newey isn’t solely responsible for car design.

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What would Newey do to avoid pitting Leclerc for Hards, like in Hungary 2022? And many other "issues" Ferrari has unfortunately had.

I think the way Vasseur approach is first build strong foundations, and Newey I think would be a nice guarantee of continuation of evolution more than for revolution.

Ferrari "designing team" isn't that that bad right now as well.

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LetHimTrough wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:14
What would Newey do to avoid pitting Leclerc for Hards, like in Hungary 2022? And many other "issues" Ferrari has unfortunately had.

I think the way Vasseur approach is first build strong foundations, and Newey I think would be a nice guarantee of continuation of evolution more than for revolution.

Ferrari "designing team" isn't that that bad right now as well.
No one is saying that, but denying Newey skills is crazy in my opinion. His understanding of the regulations and overall vision of the car is probably unmatched right now. As a matter of fact, he was the main force behind the push to the 2023 aero changes started by Mercedes (RB was against them at the beginning) because he thought they could hurt Ferrari in high speed corners and indeed he was right.

Hiring Newey would improve the technical Team massively, no doubt about that. At the same time, that doesn't mean Ferrari would win the WDC/WCC 100%

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LetHimTrough wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:14
What would Newey do to avoid pitting Leclerc for Hards, like in Hungary 2022? And many other "issues" Ferrari has unfortunately had.

I think the way Vasseur approach is first build strong foundations, and Newey I think would be a nice guarantee of continuation of evolution more than for revolution.

Ferrari "designing team" isn't that that bad right now as well.
If Mercedes domination has taught as anything it's that you don't need competent strategists (or pitstops for that matter) if you have a dominant car. You can put literally anything you want on the car and it would still work.

Ferrari's strategy dept constantly feels the need to "invent" stuff because the car does not have performance on its own. With a dominant car you can literally mirror whatever everyone else is doing and you end up looking like a genius.

Rueda certainly had his fair share errors, sure (Monaco 2022, Silverstone 2022, it's a long list), but let's not pretend that having a good chassis does not make strategy ten times easier.

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Xyz22 wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:18
LetHimTrough wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:14
What would Newey do to avoid pitting Leclerc for Hards, like in Hungary 2022? And many other "issues" Ferrari has unfortunately had.

I think the way Vasseur approach is first build strong foundations, and Newey I think would be a nice guarantee of continuation of evolution more than for revolution.

Ferrari "designing team" isn't that that bad right now as well.
No one is saying that, but denying Newey skills is crazy in my opinion. His understanding of the regulations and overall vision of the car is probably unmatched right now. As a matter of fact, he was the main force behind the push to the 2023 aero changes started by Mercedes (RB was against them at the beginning) because he thought they could hurt Ferrari in high speed corners and indeed he was right.

Hiring Newey would improve the technical Team massively, no doubt about that. At the same time, that doesn't mean Ferrari would win the WDC/WCC 100%
No,I am not trying to deny Newey Skills. I just think until recently, and this new push from Vasseur, Newey would have been drowned in the mess it was.

And I also think, if there is a need for "brilliant new head", there are other areas Ferrari needs to address before the Lead Aero guy. But that doesn't mean Newey wouldn't be a "super hiring", probably biggest ever.

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Xyz22 wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 11:21
Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 20:20
Why? RB owes its dominance to Wolff far more than Newey :)
Guys, i know Ferrari has very capable people around, but we are talking about Adrian Newey. It would be a great story to have one of the greatest designer of all time working with the most successful team ever in Formula 1. Also we can't deny his skills and capabilities.
Agreed, I just couldn't help myself with that comment :mrgreen: Imagine Byrne/Newey superband 8)
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LetHimTrough wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:26
Xyz22 wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:18
LetHimTrough wrote:
21 Mar 2024, 12:14
What would Newey do to avoid pitting Leclerc for Hards, like in Hungary 2022? And many other "issues" Ferrari has unfortunately had.

I think the way Vasseur approach is first build strong foundations, and Newey I think would be a nice guarantee of continuation of evolution more than for revolution.

Ferrari "designing team" isn't that that bad right now as well.
No one is saying that, but denying Newey skills is crazy in my opinion. His understanding of the regulations and overall vision of the car is probably unmatched right now. As a matter of fact, he was the main force behind the push to the 2023 aero changes started by Mercedes (RB was against them at the beginning) because he thought they could hurt Ferrari in high speed corners and indeed he was right.

Hiring Newey would improve the technical Team massively, no doubt about that. At the same time, that doesn't mean Ferrari would win the WDC/WCC 100%
No,I am not trying to deny Newey Skills. I just think until recently, and this new push from Vasseur, Newey would have been drowned in the mess it was.

And I also think, if there is a need for "brilliant new head", there are other areas Ferrari needs to address before the Lead Aero guy. But that doesn't mean Newey wouldn't be a "super hiring", probably biggest ever.
Like what? Has Ferrari had a car in the past 15 years which was legitimately the best in terms of aero across a season?