2024 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, April 05 - 07

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Wait, so China sprint on Saturday and race qualy 3 hours after that? Was it like that last year? Seems odd.

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DChemTech wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 10:21
the EDGE wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 09:53
DChemTech wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 09:51

Well, yes, the days of the British empire are somewhat over; it's not that strange that the timing of global events is not tuned to the timezone of a relatively modest country in Europe by default...
What a stupid comment. The times are UK… but it’s pretty much the same for most of Europe where f1s main market is. Most of the world will be at work on Friday
The rest of the world thanks you for your compassion.

Of course, everyone must accomodate their schedules to the convenience of the UK at all times. :roll:

But I can imagine that if you are only exposed to F1 through British it may feel like the whole sports solely exists to service the UK.
Well, it is British summertime, old chap :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops:

And owned by UK with the official line going through Greenwich, and all that :D

More seriously, I welcome the different time zone races, a good chance watch in peace and quite the races as they happen.

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falonso81 wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 10:38
Wait, so China sprint on Saturday and race qualy 3 hours after that? Was it like that last year? Seems odd.
No, this is a new change. They want the Sprint and the Race to feel like two separate events now, rather than them and their respective qualifying sessions being tangled up.

Now it's Sprint Qualy -> Sprint Race -> Normal Qualy -> Race

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the EDGE wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 09:44
A bit OT… but has anyone seen the times for the chines GP… ?

Sprint Quali - Friday 8.30am UK
Sprint Race - Saturday4am UK

what a rubbish race to make a sprint weekend 😡
My recommendation is to go to https://f1calendar.com and add their calendar to your own (don't do it from the Official F1 site, since they add notifications as well, which just means you'll get spammed with notifications on your phone for every sessions).

This will show the sessions in your calendar of choice, and it's adjusted for whatever time zone you're living in.

[PICTURE] Example from my calendar

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Ricciardo and Albon - No further action (Lap 1 incident).
Accordingly we determine this to be a first lap incident and decide to take no further
action.

If this incident had occurred on a subsequent lap, or without the presence of the third
car (Car 18), a different determination would have been made.


Interestingly, but related, if Russell gets a 5 second penalty vs. Piastri (or more), he will not only drop behind Piastri, but also behind Hamilton. Hamilton finished less than 5 seconds behind Russell.

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Farnborough wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 10:39
DChemTech wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 10:21
the EDGE wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 09:53


What a stupid comment. The times are UK… but it’s pretty much the same for most of Europe where f1s main market is. Most of the world will be at work on Friday
The rest of the world thanks you for your compassion.

Of course, everyone must accomodate their schedules to the convenience of the UK at all times. :roll:

But I can imagine that if you are only exposed to F1 through British it may feel like the whole sports solely exists to service the UK.
Well, it is British summertime, old chap :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops:

And owned by UK with the official line going through Greenwich, and all that :D

More seriously, I welcome the different time zone races, a good chance watch in peace and quite the races as they happen.
:D

But indeed it is a welcome change. It is easy to forget how privileged us Europeans are with so many races close to home, and starting times of several more somewhat attenuated to fit our timezones. And how flexibele fans worldwide need to be in comparison if they want to view live. I don't mind sharing that duty a bit; for a global sport it is no more than logical that event times vary accordingly, and that everyone is inconvenienced in some cases and lucky in others.

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 06:38
atanatizante wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 06:34
It's weird they mist starting on hards strategy based on the fact that most of the drivers could do that knowing that: 1.track temperature will be hotter playing into hards optimal working window and 2.there's a high chance of a VSC/SC in the first stint of the race. The only downside is that they are slower of the line at the start of the race but just see what ALO did in Australia a couple of weeks ago and not to mention that in Bahrain, on the same temperature and the same rough asphalt track the C3 tyre was the main tyre race ...
Having an early safety car and even a VSC ruins any strategy where you start on hards. If you start on hards, you need to run long.
That was the intention to do had you had some proper pace in hand as LEC did brilliantly with that 1-stop, which sadly we saw they didn't have...
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Nice one.

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And for the same strategy scenarios (reminder Carlos had 3 lap newer tyres across the 1st stint due to the restart and 2 formation laps)

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I guess they didnt punish hard enough, since he apparently did not learn the lesson.

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Oleo wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 12:41

I guess they didnt punish hard enough, since he apparently did not learn the lesson.
:lol: He knows, he just doesn't care. All the talk is betrayed by his actions right after it happened. Faking a throttle issue like some scheming kid who has just been sprung doing something they shouldn't have.

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Cs98 wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 07:09
Albon crash prone. Reminds me of Mick in 2021, huge crashes in a team that can't afford to crash.
Albon drove himself into the #1 position on an F1 team. Schumacher did not. Hamilton was crash prone in his first few years of F1. So was Max.

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TeamKoolGreen wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 13:17
Cs98 wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 07:09
Albon crash prone. Reminds me of Mick in 2021, huge crashes in a team that can't afford to crash.
Albon drove himself into the #1 position on an F1 team. Schumacher did not. Hamilton was crash prone in his first few years of F1. So was Max.
It says right there why he reminds me of Mick.

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ispano6 wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 10:31
DChemTech wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 10:21
the EDGE wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 09:53


What a stupid comment. The times are UK… but it’s pretty much the same for most of Europe where f1s main market is. Most of the world will be at work on Friday
The rest of the world thanks you for your compassion.

Of course, everyone must accomodate their schedules to the convenience of the UK at all times. :roll:

But I can imagine that if you are only exposed to F1 through British it may feel like the whole sports solely exists to service the UK.


Most sprint race weekends spice up the racing so calling China rubbish is premature.
I rather find the opposite happening.... for the most part the finishing order is set after lap 2. This is just another gimmick that most f1 fans didn't ask for

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Off the top of my head, Qatar’s Piastri win, with the mixed up tyre strategy, was good. Apart from that, the sprints have flopped, and just reveal the pace of the cars for Sunday. Very little good comes from them, for little pts reward.