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djos wrote:
08 Apr 2024, 00:55
mzso wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 22:54
djos wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 14:40

He got taken out by Albon who put his car somewhere he shouldn’t have! Daniel was taking the racing line and Albon was far too optimistic putting his car there.
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Fan goggles... He blundered into Albon, causing the collision.
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Rubbish, he was already moving into the racing line when Albon tried to drive around him into a vanishing space.

Yes it’s a first lap racing incident, but Albon was way too optimistic!
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Was he (Ricciardo)? I don't think so. He didn't see Albon who was faster on the Soft and turned very quick to the right and pushed him of the track. Yuki was in the same situation as Albon but nobody pushed him of the track to want on the racingline.

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Wouter wrote:
08 Apr 2024, 14:41
djos wrote:
08 Apr 2024, 00:55
mzso wrote:
07 Apr 2024, 22:54

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Fan goggles... He blundered into Albon, causing the collision.
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Rubbish, he was already moving into the racing line when Albon tried to drive around him into a vanishing space.

Yes it’s a first lap racing incident, but Albon was way too optimistic!
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Was he (Ricciardo)? I don't think so. He didn't see Albon who was faster on the Soft and turned very quick to the right and pushed him of the track. Yuki was in the same situation as Albon but nobody pushed him of the track to want on the racingline.

https://imgur.com./Qy82Ain.jpg

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The onboard footage shows Daniel already moving to the racing line, the issue was Albon was just insanely fast on the soft tires and tried a move around the outside.

It was never going to work. Heck, even Perez commented that Albon was in Daniels blind spot.
Ricciardo received support from Red Bull drivers Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez post-race.

"That was a big shunt, huh? He was just in the blind spot," said Perez in the post-race cooldown room.

"You can see Daniel looking left to check the left side (for Stroll)," added Verstappen.
"It's really unfortunate."
So thanks, but I’ll take actual F1 and former F1 drivers (Anthony Davidson) opinions over yours.

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As usual Dan is getting kicked while he is down. He was on pace with Yuki this weekend and unlucky two race weekends in a row. Most experienced F1 folks agree that it was a racing incident at worst. Of course Dan was keeping his eye on Stroll as that guy has taken out many cars on lap 1. Why was Albon even pushing into that corner on lap 1, it was always going to end in tears there and he should have been risk averse anyway at the moment due to Williams having no spare chassis after crashing out in Oz.



Even Max, Checo basically saying it wasn't Dans fault.

"In the cooldown room afterwards, Sainz said: “That was a big shunt, huh?”

Perez replied: “He was just in the blind spot.”

Verstappen said: “You could see Daniel looking left, at the left side. It’s really unfortunate.”"

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046564/1 ... lbon-crash

Good support for Dan from the team


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Helmut seems to be pleased with Yuki with his consistent, error free performances so far. If he continues his work on improving his mental fitness, he is here for a long haul. He had good speed, but was too hot headed in the first couple of years. Now he seems like settling down. He would be a good benchmark for Lawson when he gets into the other car.

Gasly seems to be the biggest loser to have left the team. His stocks are tumbling down with that back marker Alpine.

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Dunlay wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 01:22
Helmut seems to be pleased with Yuki with his consistent, error free performances so far. If he continues his work on improving his mental fitness, he is here for a long haul. He had good speed, but was too hot headed in the first couple of years. Now he seems like settling down. He would be a good benchmark for Lawson when he gets into the other car.

Gasly seems to be the biggest loser to have left the team. His stocks are tumbling down with that back marker Alpine.
He should be pleased, even blind Freddy can see that Yuki has been doing a stellar job for the last couple of races. Im pretty impressed with his consistency and speed - he's even been making some great overtakes without crashing into the other car, which shows good growth as a driver IMO.

Daniel might have had a challenging start to the season, but from Yuki's comments, he seems to have learned a lot from Daniel's ability to handle difficult circumstances, without throwing his toys out of the pram.
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Yuki over the last few races has been too concerned with bringing the car home, that he has lost or compromised some of his race craft.

His defense and attacks has been poor while his race pace has been good which has got him positions. The positions he made on track for some reason has looked tame in comparison to the previous seasons.

The caution has come out of the Piastri Mexican gp battle going wrong. The team has not supported him as they have done other drivers.

Yuki if he is being considered for a red bull seat is too tame at the moment, will need to get his elbows out and be unapologetic on and off the track. With his present attitude in a RBR car, he would be falling backwards in the races if other cars are closer to his pace.

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FW17 wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 03:23
Yuki over the last few races has been too concerned with bringing the car home, that he has lost or compromised some of his race craft.

His defense and attacks has been poor while his race pace has been good which has got him positions. The positions he made on track for some reason has looked tame in comparison to the previous seasons.

The caution has come out of the Piastri Mexican gp battle going wrong. The team has not supported him as they have done other drivers.

Yuki if he is being considered for a red bull seat is too tame at the moment, will need to get his elbows out and be unapologetic on and off the track. With his present attitude in a RBR car, he would be falling backwards in the races if other cars are closer to his pace.
To be fair, in those battles he generally didn't have the car to fight much harder than he did. For the last 2 races the car has shown better race pace.
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djos wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 03:29
FW17 wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 03:23
Yuki over the last few races has been too concerned with bringing the car home, that he has lost or compromised some of his race craft.

His defense and attacks has been poor while his race pace has been good which has got him positions. The positions he made on track for some reason has looked tame in comparison to the previous seasons.

The caution has come out of the Piastri Mexican gp battle going wrong. The team has not supported him as they have done other drivers.

Yuki if he is being considered for a red bull seat is too tame at the moment, will need to get his elbows out and be unapologetic on and off the track. With his present attitude in a RBR car, he would be falling backwards in the races if other cars are closer to his pace.
To be fair, in those battles he generally didn't have the car to fight much harder than he did. For the last 2 races the car has shown better race pace.
Yuki can never do anything good people will always find reason to critises him its prejudice .every driver have one or two bad races during a season

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FW17 wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 03:23
Yuki over the last few races has been too concerned with bringing the car home, that he has lost or compromised some of his race craft.

His defense and attacks has been poor while his race pace has been good which has got him positions. The positions he made on track for some reason has looked tame in comparison to the previous seasons.

The caution has come out of the Piastri Mexican gp battle going wrong. The team has not supported him as they have done other drivers.

Yuki if he is being considered for a red bull seat is too tame at the moment, will need to get his elbows out and be unapologetic on and off the track. With his present attitude in a RBR car, he would be falling backwards in the races if other cars are closer to his pace.
Given the fact that there undeniable racism in the sport, refer to the recent Arjun Maini incident, it's suicidal for Yuki to commit to Harakiri on the track. He is no Max Verstappen that he is allowed to be the crash kid for so many years before he learns his racing and becomes one the best racing drivers. So it's the right thing for Yuki to do to bail out in racing where it's unnecessary, like Lando does, than crash with opponents like Max did in the past. It's worth remembering that there is very little room for error for non caucasian drivers in FIA serieses.

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It doesn't matter if it was Rics fault or not. If it was meant to be that he would revive his career now , fate would have prevented this from happening. And it didn't. He has exactly zero momentum pushing him forward. His hand injury was another clue.

He has one more chance in China But let's face it, it's over for Daniel.

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TeamKoolGreen wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 12:28
It doesn't matter if it was Rics fault or not. If it was meant to be that he would revive his career now , fate would have prevented this from happening. And it didn't. He has exactly zero momentum pushing him forward. His hand injury was another clue.

He has one more chance in China But let's face it, it's over for Daniel.
4 races in and you doomsayers are still banging this tiresome drum - crash aside, Daniel was within +/- 1/10th of Yuki all weekend, no other driver pairing was that close! So give it a rest, the dead horse, is still dead!
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redbull junior team is no longer soley about developing young drivers .they wanted ric for a particular reason.whatcould he possibly do they is only one realistic position for scoring points p10 if lance is having an off day.the top 5 teams are out of rich, the other teams are living off the scrap left by those.

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djos wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 12:33
TeamKoolGreen wrote:
09 Apr 2024, 12:28
It doesn't matter if it was Rics fault or not. If it was meant to be that he would revive his career now , fate would have prevented this from happening. And it didn't. He has exactly zero momentum pushing him forward. His hand injury was another clue.

He has one more chance in China But let's face it, it's over for Daniel.
4 races in and you doomsayers are still banging this tiresome drum - crash aside, Daniel was within +/- 1/10th of Yuki all weekend, no other driver pairing was that close! So give it a rest, the dead horse, is still dead!
He needs to beat him fair and square. F1 careers are decided by tenths. And bad luck. Its just the way it is.

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I thought the RB Team wouldn't be sold anymore with the huge sponsors they have now!
A quote from an interview with Helmut Marko in OE24 translated by DeepL:

oe24: Now the rumor has emerged that your Racing Bulls team would be put up for sale. What's that about it?

MARKO: There are a lot of interested parties, but ultimately it's a shareholder decision. The price is high for a team,
nothing has been decided yet.

https://www.oe24.at/sport/motorsport/fo ... /591070046
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To early to right off Ricciardo, I do ecpect him to start getting on top of Yuki. (Ricciardo dont go fom pushing Max, to struggling beat Yuki)
The fact that they are changing Ricciado's Chassis for China must show that there are some issues with his current Chassis...

But if the chassis doesnt change anything, its strange to think a 35 year old is past it, while 42 old Alonso seems as competitive as ever, I guess Alonso is the exemption to the rule.