Formula 1 new Concorde Agreement (2026-2030) discussion

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Formula 1 new Concorde Agreement (2026-2030) discussion

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Formula 1 current Concorde Agreement which has been in effect since 2021 and will expire after 2025 and now all Formula 1 teams must ready for new Concorde Agreement which will take effect from 2026 to 2030 seasons from now on.

Your opinions about the new 2026-2030 CA?

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theriusDR3 wrote:
20 Mar 2024, 09:44
Your opinions about the new 2026-2030 CA?
Since the teams appear to be happy with the current financial arrangement, I'm going to suggest that the new agreement will be more of the same.

The only thing I can see some teams pushing for is a ban on common ownership of multiple teams.
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What could be the consequences of the new Concorde agreement reducing the max team slots down to 10?

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CaribouBread wrote:
11 Apr 2024, 08:02
What could be the consequences of the new Concorde agreement reducing the max team slots down to 10?
Further inflated team valuation.
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My opinion: no concorde agreement. Make f1 a sport, meaning the teams just have to deal with the conditions that are prescribed, which are equal for all - new team or eternal participant. They can leave if they don't like it.
Lower the participation fee to whatever is needed to keep the organisation running (if income from other sources does not suffice). Also here, fee is equal for all. Scrap all prize money for teams, when you win, your payout is that you can benefit from marketing popularity. Allow up to 15 teams. Here, there is preference for existing teams when full, but no blocking of new teams when there is room.

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AR3-GP wrote:
11 Apr 2024, 19:40
CaribouBread wrote:
11 Apr 2024, 08:02
What could be the consequences of the new Concorde agreement reducing the max team slots down to 10?
Further inflated team valuation.
I was thinking more in terms of legal repercussions. Stuff like EU regs and Anti trust regs (no idea if these are the right terms but regulations that demand fair competition). The article is more or less a single Joe Saward quote, not sure how much faith to put in that but I wouldn't be surprised if teams were pushing for it - given the reasoning you provided.
https://www.motorsportweek.com/2024/04/ ... nt-report/

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Seems like, other than adjusting the budget cap with full-time-equivalent for every employee (meaning no more part-time employees in F1 teams) the new Concorde Agreement will also require an adjustment for labour costs between different locations. This will bring an end to labour-cost budget cap advantage of UK-based teams

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-bu ... /10660722/

The cost of labor, for example, is an aspect that can heavily affect a team’s organization. In Switzerland where Sauber is based (which is turning into Audi), while in Italy there is Ferrari, two companies that suffer expenses for the staff that exceed by 20 – 30% the costs that are recorded in Great Britain, where the other teams are based, with the exception of Haas and Racing Bulls.

Haas has the headquarters in the United States in Kannapolis (North Carolina), and three operating offices (two in Italy: in Maranello at Ferrari and in Varano de’ Melegari from Dallara and one in England to Banbury), while the Racing Bulls is divided between Faenza and Milton Keynes and the Alpine joins Enstone at the Renault motor pole of Viry Chatillon, but the Parisian headquarters will be abandoned by the F1 team.
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DChemTech wrote:
11 Apr 2024, 20:21
My opinion: no concorde agreement. Make f1 a sport, meaning the teams just have to deal with the conditions that are prescribed, which are equal for all - new team or eternal participant. They can leave if they don't like it.
Lower the participation fee to whatever is needed to keep the organisation running (if income from other sources does not suffice). Also here, fee is equal for all. Scrap all prize money for teams, when you win, your payout is that you can benefit from marketing popularity. Allow up to 15 teams. Here, there is preference for existing teams when full, but no blocking of new teams when there is room.
15 teams is not possible - not enough garages at a lot of circuits. Personally I think 12 is enough, but I agree they should not be able to block new entrants. Perhaps the pay out to teams is based on 12 teams regardless, so no financial incentive for them to block extra teams.
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You have to doubt the intelligence of those involved in redrafting the agreement.
They could not have thought through the idea of including maternity leave and staff entertainment within the cost cap, if indeed, that is the plan.

I hope that the FIA takes back in house the decision-making on new teams being allowed to join the championship, and restricts any payment being required from new entrants to the current teams, to those in excess of the limit of 12 teams already allowed for in the current agreement.