The new arm:
From looking at the photos (thank you @zoiture)…gordonthegun wrote: ↑05 Apr 2024, 19:22The new arm:
https://cdn-9.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... japan.webp
How is it legal? Genuine question, rather than accusation. I was under the belief that suspension arms have to be aerodynamically neutral, and don't understand how these comply.Stu wrote: ↑09 Apr 2024, 08:01From looking at the photos (thank you @zoiture)…gordonthegun wrote: ↑05 Apr 2024, 19:22The new arm:
https://cdn-9.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... japan.webp
https://twitter.com/Graftechweb/status/ ... 2608435279
I would say that he has the layout wrong? (Back to front? Photo is from the rear of the car)
But it does show how/why they are looking at all areas for improvement and airflow management. A very neat & clever idea to increase the effectiveness of the brake duct outlet and upper cake-tin winglet.
Piola (and his team) uses photos and sometimes it's a direct trace, I think this is the case now. Hard to illustrate things wrong with a traceStu wrote: ↑09 Apr 2024, 08:01I would say that he has the layout wrong? (Back to front? Photo is from the rear of the car)
But it does show how/why they are looking at all areas for improvement and airflow management. A very neat & clever idea to increase the effectiveness of the brake duct outlet and upper cake-tin winglet.
Aero foils around the suspension and driveshaft have to be symmetrical and they are limited on relative thickness somehow. They can be inclined by 10 degrees (iirc) in either direction relative to reference plane. It's been like this on front and rear suspension for decades
Space-heat wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 13:09https://formu1a.uno/it/esclusiva-ferrar ... a-cardile/
Seems Ferrari are switching to RBR style (Shark mouth) radiator inlets. I was not expecting that.
Minor front wing update and new floor are the main parts discussion.
2-2.5 tenths gain predicted. Could put Carlos and Charles right about Max.
No, it only means they've made it work. It's called iterative design for a reason.Venturiation wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 16:02https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK4ROR9WwAE ... name=largeSpace-heat wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 13:09https://formu1a.uno/it/esclusiva-ferrar ... a-cardile/
Seems Ferrari are switching to RBR style (Shark mouth) radiator inlets. I was not expecting that.
Minor front wing update and new floor are the main parts discussion.
2-2.5 tenths gain predicted. Could put Carlos and Charles right about Max.
this means they tools had to be changed to make it work the second time?
there will also be the Red Bull-like upside-down mouths which, initially, did not give the desired results but subsequent studies have promoted (gains/development)
It is hard to know what changed. It might have been smoke on the initial report of the overbite not working in the tunnel.Venturiation wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 16:02https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK4ROR9WwAE ... name=largeSpace-heat wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 13:09https://formu1a.uno/it/esclusiva-ferrar ... a-cardile/
Seems Ferrari are switching to RBR style (Shark mouth) radiator inlets. I was not expecting that.
Minor front wing update and new floor are the main parts discussion.
2-2.5 tenths gain predicted. Could put Carlos and Charles right about Max.
this means they tools had to be changed to make it work the second time?
there will also be the Red Bull-like upside-down mouths which, initially, did not give the desired results but subsequent studies have promoted (gains/development)
I would not expect Ferrari to have the same inlet size as RedBull. They will probably have larger inlets to compensate the lack of centerline cooling and additional inlets.DoctorRadio wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 19:02How can Ferrari get away with smaller inlets/sidepods and still have the slim airbox (if the above report is to be believed)?
The RB20 has center line cooling and still quite “big” sidepods, with many inlets around the car.
Certainly Ferrari’s PU cooling efficiency is very impressive, IF that is going to be the case; should it also mean much less drag than the current spec?
No need to be sceptical, this is a formula 1 team, they don't do things based on vibes. If they do something, it's for a reason, & the reason here being it's probably showing gains or opening doorways to future developments.ing. wrote: ↑11 Apr 2024, 23:57I’m a bit sceptical about Ferrari using the over-bite concept ‘copy - paste’ from RB20, not just because of the aforementioned different cooling layout but also because RBR pretty much lay out their front suspension to condition the air to the SPs.
But then again, all teams using the underbite have done so with different suspension layouts and Ferrari already have a vertical inlet (S-duct) which may be repurposed for cooling duties, so let’s hope it looks good and works even better.