wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 09:26
What is this latest info, and where is it coming from?
I've seen the updated latest info from Moctecus' post today, I've unfortunately missed this info from Tombazis of the fuel limit decrease most likely "stopping" at 90kg. Not a great step as 70kg would be, but 18% is not bad at all. 44% less fuel than 2013 is still pretty stunning.
wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 09:26
The energy storage capacity remains the same - 4MJ.
You probably mean the allowable energy recovery per lap, and, therefore, the deployment.
Actually I meant what I said, teams can store that much, just not at the same time during the lap
Semantics, of course
wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 09:26
They have also reduced the speed at which maximum MGUK power can be used in normal mode (290km/h, down from 300km/h) reduced MGUK power from 150kW above 340km/h to 0kW above 345km/h.
This all suggest to me that there is a lack of opportunity to recovery energy, and that they needed to reduce power output so as not to use it too quickly.
The whole 50/50 power split isn't really true if the MGUK has only half its maximum power at 325km/h.
I don't see this as fundamental, these are tiny corrections based on latest simulation and performance modelling data. Acceleration is where you want to use MGU as much as possible in any case, to save fuel for a fairly steady-state top speed regime where you can use ICE in a near-optimal point where it powers the car and charges the battery.
wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 09:26
The MGUK will certainly offset the ICE's turbo lag from slow corners.
I presume ICE efficiency will be well down when it is suffering from turbo lag.
Turbo lag has been mentioned as something that can make the cars exciting to watch, but it could be several seconds before the turbo comes on boost. The current units would be around 5-10s if not for the MGUH.
Indeed, I think turbo lag will be completely covered with MGU and ICE will likely be kept at a fairly high RPM range with as lean as possible mixture. Like I said, from an engineering and tactical/strategical POV these 50/50 hybrids will be a whole new range of options and opportunities.
wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 10:41
If they 2026 PU rules are better than the 2014-2025 PU rules "in every way" then there would be no issue in delaying the 2026 chassis rules a year or two, and running the 2026 PU in the current generation chassis?
It would be possible, but it's the right thing to introduce the full package and set it as the baseline for future improvements of technical regulations. And honestly, it's a decent baseline. This discussion started with active aero and that bit is quite an important aspect of 2026 chassis rules.
Just a brief digression, 2009 chassis rule change came as an "answer" to overtaking problems. It was such a good change and it required introducing DRS full 2 years later.
Minor chassis rules changes aside, 2017 were the next big change and it was such a stupid move with Ecclestone wanting to make cars faster. Almost like "well, racing is shot in any case, might as well make cars faster and more physically exhausting to drive" which was peak stupidity. 2019 changes were never going to work as good as new FOM hoped, so we finally got 2022 ground effect rules.
Now, 3 years into the rule set, new findings have surfaced on how to further reduce the impact of aero losses when following another car and all teams agreed it's a good thing to make substantial changes ASAP. Smaller and lighter cars, less dependant on aero, aero becoming more robust in any case and finally becoming active, more fuel efficient and PU rules more relevant to road car tech. Are these changes as big as they could have been? Maybe not. Will they be an improvement on the critical points highlighted by everyone? Undoubtedly.
wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 10:41
A complaint about the MGUH was that it was too complicated.
To complicated to match with the turbo, or the energy management was too complicated?
No, the technology itself is very complex and sensitive from manufacturing POV. You have 120k RPM turbo subjected to extensive thermal loads. Fine, high RPM turbos have been built for decades. EMs, not so much. Energy management is a non-issue as fas as I understand, but coupling a high-speed EM in a very hot environment is a big challenge. Tolerances are crazy, thermal management is crazy, vibration management is crazy. Parts are very expensive to manufacture and require very special and expensive machines to do so. Road car technology went in another direction since 2014 and such units never became road-relevant even if many attempts to do so have been made. It's simply too expensive to manufacture purely from mechanical POV and ultimately yields very small improvements for road cars, even high-performance specimens.
wuzak wrote: ↑12 Apr 2024, 10:41
The 2026 PUs are loking to be even more complicated energy management wise.
And each rules revision seems to make the energy managemnt problem more complicated.
Energy management is solved with software. All the sensors needed to monitor parameters and stay within rules are already there. You can change parameters or write several new pieces of code and test them with simulation in a snap. Simulations give a hint which directions are most promising and those move to test benches and the best solutions get to the car itself. It's an engineering challenge, no F1 team runs away from that.