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peewon wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 20:48
Can you point to the vlog please? This honestly sounds like the likeliest sequence of events regarding the contract situation. Alonso's talk regarding retirement made little sense as the man has never seemed like he doesn't want to race. I thought the offers probably weren't good enough but clearly it was a time biding tactic. I wonder if he has left himself some wiggle room in case that RB seat opens up.

As for the new regs, there's so many new engineering challenges involved with them that it's impossible to predict. Aero pedigree still lies with Newey. RB are moaning about the PU regs whereas Merc seem content.

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Honda Targets F1 Title Bid With Aston Martin From 2026
"Honda was very impressed with Mr Stroll's strong passion and his strong leadership to fight for the world championship in 2026.
"They invest a lot of money to establish the factory in Silverstone. We visited them to see the factory that was under construction.
"Several times we have meetings with Martin Whitmarsh and Mike Krack, so the management team. They are very open and the entire team is working in the same direction, it's one united team. That is a very good image for us.

"At the same time, they also think that Honda is a good partner for them to become world champion.
"We have already started a technical working team and also a steering committee meeting to discuss some important issues that we can maybe improve."
Last week, two-time world champion Fernando Alonso announced he would stay with the squad into its Honda era, until at least 2026, after saying he was similarly convinced by the prospect of an Aston - Honda tie-up.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... ock-anchor

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-wkst- wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 08:12
peewon wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 20:48
Can you point to the vlog please? This honestly sounds like the likeliest sequence of events regarding the contract situation. Alonso's talk regarding retirement made little sense as the man has never seemed like he doesn't want to race. I thought the offers probably weren't good enough but clearly it was a time biding tactic. I wonder if he has left himself some wiggle room in case that RB seat opens up.

As for the new regs, there's so many new engineering challenges involved with them that it's impossible to predict. Aero pedigree still lies with Newey. RB are moaning about the PU regs whereas Merc seem content.
Danke

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Apparently, Stroll had a more loaded rear wing for qualifying and the race, which explains his frustration with top speed.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10598610/

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Also this:
the Suzuka car did not express the actual value of the changes seen in the wind tunnel, but Fallows expects to be able to exploit the package in Shanghai and Miami

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Who Knows, if Honda Build a amazing engine Alonso may end up with more than 3 titles

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Big Gun wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:54
Who Knows, if Honda Build a amazing engine Alonso may end up with more than 3 titles
First things first though, the team still hasn't won a single race

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KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 18:03
Big Gun wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:54
Who Knows, if Honda Build a amazing engine Alonso may end up with more than 3 titles
First things first though, the team still hasn't won a single race
Yet..... :)

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KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:48
Also this:
the Suzuka car did not express the actual value of the changes seen in the wind tunnel, but Fallows expects to be able to exploit the package in Shanghai and Miami
Hopefully!
AMR will suffer a lot in those long slow corners in Shanghai.

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RedNEO wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:53
Despite Alonso having less downforce vs Stroll In the high downorce section he was 7 tenths faster, showing Aston and the word that he is still one of the fastest drivers alomg with Max
Last edited by Big Gun on 17 Apr 2024, 16:28, edited 1 time in total.

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KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:48
Apparently, Stroll had a more loaded rear wing for qualifying and the race, which explains his frustration with top speed.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10598610/

https://cdn-9.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -stro.webp

Also this:
the Suzuka car did not express the actual value of the changes seen in the wind tunnel, but Fallows expects to be able to exploit the package in Shanghai and Miami
I hope it’s not another year of this. How come red bulls upgrades general correlate with what they’re getting in windtunnel compared to most other teams

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KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 18:03
Big Gun wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:54
Who Knows, if Honda Build a amazing engine Alonso may end up with more than 3 titles
First things first though, the team still hasn't won a single race
Not even Brawn GP had won a single race. Alonso hadn't fought for podiums since 2014 and in 2023 he achieved 8. This act of doing everything calmly and progressively is useless. We need to start to win immediately and regardless of everything. Finally Honda has given a wake-up call: "in 2026 we must fight to win the world championship".

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SSJ4 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 19:58
KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:48
Apparently, Stroll had a more loaded rear wing for qualifying and the race, which explains his frustration with top speed.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10598610/

https://cdn-9.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -stro.webp

Also this:
the Suzuka car did not express the actual value of the changes seen in the wind tunnel, but Fallows expects to be able to exploit the package in Shanghai and Miami
I hope it’s not another year of this. How come red bulls upgrades general correlate with what they’re getting in windtunnel compared to most other teams
I don't think the article is saying they had correlation trouble. I think it's saying the effect of the upgrades will suit Shanghai and Miami more than Suzuka.

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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 21:01
SSJ4 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 19:58
KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 17:48
Apparently, Stroll had a more loaded rear wing for qualifying and the race, which explains his frustration with top speed.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10598610/

https://cdn-9.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -stro.webp

Also this:

I hope it’s not another year of this. How come red bulls upgrades general correlate with what they’re getting in windtunnel compared to most other teams
I don't think the article is saying they had correlation trouble. I think it's saying the effect of the upgrades will suit Shanghai and Miami more than Suzuka.
Probably it has to do with getting more data as Suzuka was not ideal due to rain. (neither is China and Miami due to sprints, but it's the same for everyone)

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KimiRai wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 21:06
AR3-GP wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 21:01
SSJ4 wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 19:58


I hope it’s not another year of this. How come red bulls upgrades general correlate with what they’re getting in windtunnel compared to most other teams
I don't think the article is saying they had correlation trouble. I think it's saying the effect of the upgrades will suit Shanghai and Miami more than Suzuka.
Probably it has to do with getting more data as Suzuka was not ideal due to rain. (neither is China and Miami due to sprints, but it's the same for everyone)
This also makes a lot of sense.