I tend to think it indicates there has not been the falling out with Horner as has been made out that he mentions Horner on a personal/family friend level’Wouter wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 12:58.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 12:28..Dunlay wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 12:12No mention of Marko? Seems like he is leaving because of Marko.
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Interesting, good spots! But it must be all about Horner, right?
I assume you read in detail what Newey wrote in his letter.
..Oracle Red Bull Racing Chief Technical Officer Adrian Newey said: “Ever since I was a young boy, I wanted to be a designer of fast cars. My dream was to be an engineer in Formula One, and I’ve been lucky enough to make that dream a reality. For almost two decades it has been my great honour to have played a key role in Red Bull Racing’s progress from upstart newcomer to multiple title-winning Team. However, I feel now is an opportune moment to hand that baton over to others and to seek new challenges for myself. In the interim, the final stages of development of RB17 are upon us, so for the remainder of my time with the Team my focus will lie there.
I would like to thank the many amazing people I have worked with at Red Bull in our journey over the last 18 years for their talent, dedication and hard work.
It has been a real privilege, and I am confident that the engineering Team are well prepared for the work going into the final evolution of the car under the four-year period of this regulation set.
On a personal note, I would also like to thank the shareholders, the late Dietrich Mateschitz, Mark Mateschitz and Chalerm Yoovidhya for their unwavering support during my time at Red Bull,
and Christian, who has not only been my business partner but also a friend of our respective families.
Also, thanks to Oliver Mintzlaff for his stewardship and Eddie Jordan, my close friend and manager."
Who has not only been = Past tense while he is still working with him!
And "the many amazing people": Marko, Drivers, his design team, etc.
Exit statements are part of exit negotiations, always have been. It's not straight from the heart of Newey to the minds of fans. It's a bargaining tool. You make us look good and we'll cut you a better exit deal.Watto wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:12I tend to think it indicates there has not been the falling out with Horner as has been made out that he mentions Horner on a personal/family friend level’Wouter wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 12:58.
I assume you read in detail what Newey wrote in his letter.
..Oracle Red Bull Racing Chief Technical Officer Adrian Newey said: “Ever since I was a young boy, I wanted to be a designer of fast cars. My dream was to be an engineer in Formula One, and I’ve been lucky enough to make that dream a reality. For almost two decades it has been my great honour to have played a key role in Red Bull Racing’s progress from upstart newcomer to multiple title-winning Team. However, I feel now is an opportune moment to hand that baton over to others and to seek new challenges for myself. In the interim, the final stages of development of RB17 are upon us, so for the remainder of my time with the Team my focus will lie there.
I would like to thank the many amazing people I have worked with at Red Bull in our journey over the last 18 years for their talent, dedication and hard work.
It has been a real privilege, and I am confident that the engineering Team are well prepared for the work going into the final evolution of the car under the four-year period of this regulation set.
On a personal note, I would also like to thank the shareholders, the late Dietrich Mateschitz, Mark Mateschitz and Chalerm Yoovidhya for their unwavering support during my time at Red Bull,
and Christian, who has not only been my business partner but also a friend of our respective families.
Also, thanks to Oliver Mintzlaff for his stewardship and Eddie Jordan, my close friend and manager."
Who has not only been = Past tense while he is still working with him!
And "the many amazing people": Marko, Drivers, his design team, etc.
I think there is probably too much being made of Marko missing from the statement but think it likely points out there was no major falling out with anyone no real single point of blame. He probably I’d say had no interest in trying to pick a side and moved on
Yeah that’s probably fair but think Wouter breaking down past tenths of his Horner statement is a very very big leapCs98 wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:19Exit statements are part of exit negotiations, always have been. It's not straight from the heart of Newey to the minds of fans. It's a bargaining tool. You make us look good and we'll cut you a better exit deal.Watto wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:12I tend to think it indicates there has not been the falling out with Horner as has been made out that he mentions Horner on a personal/family friend level’
I think there is probably too much being made of Marko missing from the statement but think it likely points out there was no major falling out with anyone no real single point of blame. He probably I’d say had no interest in trying to pick a side and moved on
There'd definitely would be noise and behind the scenes rumors if this was the case. I doubt it.Silent Storm wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:35There were some rumours that if Horner is out, Newey would leave too...
Does anyone think this decision is about Horner being kicked out by end of the season?
Don’t see that being the case tbh. Think there would be more rumours of Horner going if that was the caseSilent Storm wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:35There were some rumours that if Horner is out, Newey would leave too...
Does anyone think this decision is about Horner being kicked out by end of the season?
Indeed. My point is simply that such statements are signed off and released by the company as part of the negotiation, it's not an exposé into the current situation, it's about preserving image.Watto wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:23Yeah that’s probably fair but think Wouter breaking down past tenths of his Horner statement is a very very big leapCs98 wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:19Exit statements are part of exit negotiations, always have been. It's not straight from the heart of Newey to the minds of fans. It's a bargaining tool. You make us look good and we'll cut you a better exit deal.Watto wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:12
I tend to think it indicates there has not been the falling out with Horner as has been made out that he mentions Horner on a personal/family friend level’
I think there is probably too much being made of Marko missing from the statement but think it likely points out there was no major falling out with anyone no real single point of blame. He probably I’d say had no interest in trying to pick a side and moved on
Agree - and I did say too I think people are reading too much into Markos name missingCs98 wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:42Indeed. My point is simply that such statements are signed off and released by the company as part of the negotiation, it's not an exposé into the current situation, it's about preserving image.
.Watto wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:23.Cs98 wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:19.Watto wrote: ↑01 May 2024, 13:12I tend to think it indicates there has not been the falling out with Horner as has been made out that he mentions Horner on a personal/family friend level’
I think there is probably too much being made of Marko missing from the statement but think it likely points out there was no major falling out with anyone no real single point of blame. He probably I’d say had no interest in trying to pick a side and moved on
Exit statements are part of exit negotiations, always have been. It's not straight from the heart of Newey to the minds of fans. It's a bargaining tool. You make us look good and we'll cut you a better exit deal.
Yeah that’s probably fair but think Wouter breaking down past tenths of his Horner statement is a very very big leap