McLaren MCL38

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LionsHeart wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:36
Against the backdrop of all this, a single-element beam wing looks interesting. Here we can really say that it is unloaded and designed to reduce drag.
The tip possibly is a vortex generator as well. Maybe an extra measure to keep the front wake away from the sidepods?
Definitely not a strong one, but little things matter when you add them up.

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here its obvious how late the waterslide start
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Emag wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:33
mwillems wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:29
I'm not convinced the watersides have changed I think it's just the shadows are hidden and it looks smooth.

Need some pics from practise.
Nope, waterslides are definitely changed.

Before -> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLb3DH3XsAA ... name=large
After -> https://i.ibb.co/Z6qwPDS/15-F08757-D376 ... C3-BC6.jpg

Just follow the crease towards the engine cover and see how much steeper it is in the older spec almost immediately after the inlet. That's not the case anymore, the "fall down" only happens at the rear-end.
Yeah its definately different! But not flat though I don't think. Definately getting more airflow in that area. More if a spoon shape than a shoulder.
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Emag wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:33
mwillems wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:29
I'm not convinced the watersides have changed I think it's just the shadows are hidden and it looks smooth.

Need some pics from practise.
Nope, waterslides are definitely changed.

Before -> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLb3DH3XsAA ... name=large
After -> https://i.ibb.co/Z6qwPDS/15-F08757-D376 ... C3-BC6.jpg

Just follow the crease towards the engine cover and see how much steeper it is in the older spec almost immediately after the inlet. That's not the case anymore, the "fall down" only happens at the rear-end.
Here you can clearly see how differently they arranged the trimming under the sidepods. And they pulled it all back. Also, water slides begin much later and go steeply down into the diffuser area.

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Emag wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:38
LionsHeart wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:36
Against the backdrop of all this, a single-element beam wing looks interesting. Here we can really say that it is unloaded and designed to reduce drag.
The tip possibly is a vortex generator as well. Maybe an extra measure to keep the front wake away from the sidepods?
Definitely not a strong one, but little things matter when you add them up.
Everything matters here. Every detail. We cannot consider only one local area, since the air flows around the entire chassis, and not locally individually.

I haven’t read a book on aerodynamics for 10 years, so someone will answer your question more accurately.

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Yes it is definately tighter all round, increasing the airflow to the wing and diffuser, on top and underneath the sidepod.

Is it wider by a little?
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upper lip moved far forward, almost where halo starts/ is attached. Level with where senna starts, before, it was way after the senna logo
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Lots of small details, looks to me like all of them are aimed at bodywork drag reduction. Deeper and steeper slides and slight changes to inlet definitely aimed at lowering drag. Bigger mid wing definitely there to increase the local vorticity, potentially aiming at rear tyre and affecting front tyre wake outwash

Nice job, no huge step anywhere, but loads of small steps everywhere
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he looks happy
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Has anyone seen a good side by side of the FW ?
It's very hard make out the changes from the pics I've seen so far

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f1rules wrote:
03 May 2024, 17:54
he looks happy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMqgWnhW8AA ... name=large
This is the pic that tells me that the waterslides aren't gone near the driver, there's clearly an upper edge, it's just more like a spoon than a canal at the top of the sidepods now. Definately not flat.
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im not sure theyve shown the new fw yet

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