Nothing positive, that's his typical level. Both of them are driving at their peaks and are the only pair to do so along with Red Bull duo.
He was ahead in dry but cold Q in China as well
Nothing positive, that's his typical level. Both of them are driving at their peaks and are the only pair to do so along with Red Bull duo.
He was ahead in dry but cold Q in China as well
I mean they just brought a completely new car. We will see next week in Imola.Seanspeed wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:25<> it should be pretty concerning how fast Mclaren was and the fact that they could have had pole position . They didn't understand their car on soft tires, ok, but that's understandable for a first time out in a Sprint Weekend with such a huge upgrade.
I think you'd have to be lying to yourself if you didn't think that was potentially worrying.
I mean, yes, that's part of the worry. They brought a whole new car and proved incredibly competitive even on a track that would have previously been considered a weakness. They literally had a time in SQ2 that would have been good for pole position, but the car seemed to fall apart on soft tires.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:26I mean they just brought a completely new car. We will see next week in Imola.Seanspeed wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:25<> it should be pretty concerning how fast Mclaren was and the fact that they could have had pole position . They didn't understand their car on soft tires, ok, but that's understandable for a first time out in a Sprint Weekend with such a huge upgrade.
I think you'd have to be lying to yourself if you didn't think that was potentially worrying.
I mean sure, but also can't you say that Ferrari are still up there with a pretty much base spec car? I don't see why we should be any more worried than we were. We know they are improving but so are we. Like Vanja said, their tyre management looks quite rough with this car right now so let's just wait and seeSeanspeed wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:30I mean, yes, that's part of the worry. They brought a whole new car and proved incredibly competitive even on a track that would have previously been considered a weakness. They literally had a time in SQ2 that would have been good for pole position, but the car seemed to fall apart on soft tires.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:26I mean they just brought a completely new car. We will see next week in Imola.Seanspeed wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:25<> it should be pretty concerning how fast Mclaren was and the fact that they could have had pole position . They didn't understand their car on soft tires, ok, but that's understandable for a first time out in a Sprint Weekend with such a huge upgrade.
I think you'd have to be lying to yourself if you didn't think that was potentially worrying.
Still some scary pace. I know a lot of people here dont want to consider Mclaren a legit rival, but I absolutely think they are. And frankly, I welcome it. I miss the days of Ferrari vs Mclaren.
I understand your concerns too well and the ridiculous failures on Leclerc’s side of the garage in the last couple of years have installed a constant state of fear into my mind, too.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 23:30Haven't seen anything, it wasn't important. With whole new set of PU components on both cars, I was afraid Leclerc's mechanics had another one of their episodes and messed something up in assembly. This remains the only fear I have going into upcoming seasons, Brasil was not that long ago and Bahrain even less...
PIA was 0.1 off in SQ2. The update is a good one but only NOR had it.Seanspeed wrote:I mean, yes, that's part of the worry. They brought a whole new car and proved incredibly competitive even on a track that would have previously been considered a weakness. They literally had a time in SQ2 that would have been good for pole position, but the car seemed to fall apart on soft tires.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:26I mean they just brought a completely new car. We will see next week in Imola.Seanspeed wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:25Ignoring the obvious troll, it should be pretty concerning how fast Mclaren was and the fact that they could have had pole position . They didn't understand their car on soft tires, ok, but that's understandable for a first time out in a Sprint Weekend with such a huge upgrade.
I think you'd have to be lying to yourself if you didn't think that was potentially worrying.
Still some scary pace. I know a lot of people here dont want to consider Mclaren a legit rival, but I absolutely think they are. And frankly, I welcome it. I miss the days of Ferrari vs Mclaren.
Well, whatever the case may be, I'm not going to convince you of why sporting history is important to a lot of fans as you seem to have made up your mind. If the Man Utd turned up in City blue - even for one match - trust me, a lot of fans would be unhappy; if the Yankees wore Red Sox red - even for one game - same thing. This stuff means a lot to a lot of people and, when Ferrari actually did run blue cars in 1964, it was because they wanted to send a serious message to F1 and Italian authorities.Seanspeed wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 00:45I'm not a young fan at all.f1316 wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 23:52"lol"... I know that. It means something, one race or no. Maybe it doesn't seem like it to young fans who see teams swapping out random liveries for other random liveries all the time but there is all sorts of history, tradition and national pride wrapped up in racing colours for a team like Ferrari. Feel free to educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_i ... ng_colours
"Feel free to educate yourself"
Frick off with the condescending nonsense. Some of us just want to see an actually aesthetically pleasing color scheme for a race if they're gonna do some unique one-off. That's it. Italy is not going to fall into the ocean if they more fully used a color that is still the official sporting color of Italy, ffs.
The dramatics of your argument are beyond ridiculous.
Oscar has half of the package this weekend according to Stella: visibly confirmed has been the new front wing. He has old spec sidepods/engine cover thoughdialtone wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 02:03PIA was 0.1 off in SQ2. The update is a good one but only NOR had it.Seanspeed wrote:I mean, yes, that's part of the worry. They brought a whole new car and proved incredibly competitive even on a track that would have previously been considered a weakness. They literally had a time in SQ2 that would have been good for pole position, but the car seemed to fall apart on soft tires.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:26
I mean they just brought a completely new car. We will see next week in Imola.
Still some scary pace. I know a lot of people here dont want to consider Mclaren a legit rival, but I absolutely think they are. And frankly, I welcome it. I miss the days of Ferrari vs Mclaren.
Also when they did their lap in SQ2 was peak performance for the track. The 2nd attempt in SQ2 was slower and nobody improved their time. In SQ3 track wasn’t as quick and cloud cover was totally gone and track was getting hotter melting all tires, which explains all the glitches in everyone’s laps.
Ah, makes sense then, wasn't aware of that.organic wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 02:07Oscar has half of the package this weekend according to Stella: visibly confirmed has been the new front wing. He has old spec sidepods/engine cover thoughdialtone wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 02:03PIA was 0.1 off in SQ2. The update is a good one but only NOR had it.Seanspeed wrote: I mean, yes, that's part of the worry. They brought a whole new car and proved incredibly competitive even on a track that would have previously been considered a weakness. They literally had a time in SQ2 that would have been good for pole position, but the car seemed to fall apart on soft tires.
Still some scary pace. I know a lot of people here dont want to consider Mclaren a legit rival, but I absolutely think they are. And frankly, I welcome it. I miss the days of Ferrari vs Mclaren.
Also when they did their lap in SQ2 was peak performance for the track. The 2nd attempt in SQ2 was slower and nobody improved their time. In SQ3 track wasn’t as quick and cloud cover was totally gone and track was getting hotter melting all tires, which explains all the glitches in everyone’s laps.