McL was bad on soft tyres.... Lets see what the GP brings.
That he made a mistake?dialtone wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 23:43What's a good driver supposed to say? We don't know exactly what he had to deal with setup wise there so it's hard for us to tell if the mistake was his or simply the car balance was different with the softs and not able to deal with the same cornering as he did with the mediums.
All we know is that MCL went from 1-2 to far back, both drivers bottled up with similar gaps? Sounds to me it's more the car.
I also find this annoying. The knives are out immediately when it suits someones view. Leclerc has a moment in FP, gets cancelled straight away. Is on P2. Lando has a moment, that you can easily have around here. He is a choker. He isn’t. It is just a lap without much preparation where it can easily go wrong.dialtone wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 23:33Lando didn't bottle anything up. We don't need to have these reactions each time. The driver cannot outdrive the car. McLaren are clearly having tire issues and the track is too hot. Tomorrow will be hotter still but Sunday should be cooler and they will be fine in the race on sunday on the harder compounds, tire deg remains to be seen and there's tomorrow for that.
There is now a mountain of evidence that suggests Lando does choke in big momentsSieper wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 00:15I also find this annoying. The knives are out immediately when it suits someones view. Leclerc has a moment in FP, gets cancelled straight away. Is on P2. Lando has a moment, that you can easily have around here. He is a choker. He isn’t. It is just a lap without much preparation where it can easily go wrong.dialtone wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 23:33Lando didn't bottle anything up. We don't need to have these reactions each time. The driver cannot outdrive the car. McLaren are clearly having tire issues and the track is too hot. Tomorrow will be hotter still but Sunday should be cooler and they will be fine in the race on sunday on the harder compounds, tire deg remains to be seen and there's tomorrow for that.
Ooh the reason people are always hating on Verstappen is a whole nother.organic wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 00:19There is now a mountain of evidence that suggests Lando does choke in big momentsSieper wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 00:15I also find this annoying. The knives are out immediately when it suits someones view. Leclerc has a moment in FP, gets cancelled straight away. Is on P2. Lando has a moment, that you can easily have around here. He is a choker. He isn’t. It is just a lap without much preparation where it can easily go wrong.dialtone wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 23:33Lando didn't bottle anything up. We don't need to have these reactions each time. The driver cannot outdrive the car. McLaren are clearly having tire issues and the track is too hot. Tomorrow will be hotter still but Sunday should be cooler and they will be fine in the race on sunday on the harder compounds, tire deg remains to be seen and there's tomorrow for that.
And I won't talk about Leclerc and mistakes since it's a controversial issue, but that it comes up so much says enough
When Verstappen races harshly wheel to wheel with somebody (eg forcing someone off) the knives come out for that immediately. You lose benefit of the doubt when there is a significant pattern
Why would we want teams to 'disappear more quickly'? In what way is that a good thing? This isn't soccer. This isn't a sport just anybody can jump in and do. It requires a huge amount of dedication and resources.maxxer wrote: ↑03 May 2024, 21:54I dont agree at all , teams who dont score points will dissappear more quickly , its not like soccer when you can be demoted to a different division.
If teams cant fight for points they shouldnt be in f1 or come back scoring. Otherwise it would be a useless competition because if they still get points for bad results they will just change owners (investor companies) who do not inevest but just cash in on the points won that year.
Agreed, goes to confirm Lando chokes in the big moments.organic wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:12You can't see that he brakes too late and carries too much speed through T1 (in the process missing the apex) which compromises his line massively for 2 so when he tries to take the kerb he's thrown off it which in turn screws him for T3. Essentially a spiral after messing up T1
Here's Norris' entry to T2
https://i.imgur.com/8r6jtWT.jpeg
Here's a normal entry to T2
https://i.imgur.com/gYia9pE.jpeg
He barely misses the apex in T1, still better apex than LEC anyway, and similar line to LEC into T2, the car goes out from under him while he's accelerating for T2 after having nicely hit the T2 apex.
You came in here being patronising & like there were no mistakes in lando's S1dialtone wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:34He barely misses the apex in T1, still better apex than LEC anyway, and similar line to LEC into T2, the car goes out from under him while he's accelerating for T2 after having nicely hit the T2 apex.
And he's on softs rather then mediums, you are supposed to brake later, that's why they are softs...
Anyway hey, Lando isn't my driver so I'm not going to defend him further, but this is really weird to me.
when there are multiple obvious mistakes to any racer. He takes too tight of a line into 2 with too much speed and gets spat off the kerb with a snap of oversteer which he has to correct which leaves him tight for T3 and the cycle repeats.I'm not sure exactly what we're doing here... Look at the onboard and tell me what mistake he made.
He simply was not happy with his lap, and rightly so as it was not a great one.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑04 May 2024, 01:06Max was sure a bit sheepish at the end..
GP says "that's P1"
Max "Really ? Where were the others ? Huh.. I'll take it"
Sounds like Max was expecting a fight at the end and it never happened. I think because of the mandated compounds