2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
User avatar
hollus
Moderator
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 01:21
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

OK, there is nothing wrong with the building and physical parts of the wind tunnel. Fine. Data collection, calibration, interpretation and (sure, modelable) scale and wall artifacts are, for most people, part of the wind tunnel. Let's not be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
Rivals, not enemies.

Hoffman900
Hoffman900
211
Joined: 13 Oct 2019, 03:02

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

hollus wrote:
04 May 2024, 17:58
OK, there is nothing wrong with the building and physical parts of the wind tunnel. Fine. Data collection, calibration, interpretation and (sure, modelable) scale and wall artifacts are, for most people, part of the wind tunnel. Let's not be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.
Exactly, thanks Hollus.

Venturiation
Venturiation
98
Joined: 04 Jan 2023, 19:48

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Slower than a haas :shock:

j_ste
j_ste
1
Joined: 20 Jun 2023, 02:40

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Qualifying is going to be so important, if they start in the pack, its going to be a diasaster first stint.

Straight line speed of a gp3 team

User avatar
214270
18
Joined: 27 Apr 2019, 18:49

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

j_ste wrote:
04 May 2024, 18:46
Qualifying is going to be so important, if they start in the pack, its going to be a diasaster first stint.

Straight line speed of a gp3 team
They’re screwed, no point holding out hope.

Best is 9 & 10 if STR is on song, that’s simply where the car is. Frankly, there’s every chance it’s worse because VCARB or Haas might steal a place too.
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

mkay
mkay
16
Joined: 21 May 2010, 21:30

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Toto told Ted Kravitz that the pace wasn't that bad in the Sprint. HAM finished nearly 30 seconds behind VER in 19 laps. Probably lost 5 seconds in traffic, but also had 3 laps behind SC, so all-in-all 30 seconds in 19 laps is probably close to being representative.

Luscion
Luscion
99
Joined: 13 Feb 2023, 01:37

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Toto just said they're changing the setup of the car before quali, maybe a different wing? they were quick in S1, lost so much time in S2 and then just werent quick enough to overtake in S3

Luscion
Luscion
99
Joined: 13 Feb 2023, 01:37

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Also Magnesseun admitting to doing what he did to do to Lewis on purpose is crazy to me, saying he was vulnerable with Lewis behind him after Hulkenberg broke the DRS and so he had to use the tactics to protect Hulkenberg, similar to Jeddah imo

Cs98
Cs98
33
Joined: 01 Jul 2022, 11:37

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

mkay wrote:
04 May 2024, 18:59
Toto told Ted Kravitz that the pace wasn't that bad in the Sprint. HAM finished nearly 30 seconds behind VER in 19 laps. Probably lost 5 seconds in traffic, but also had 3 laps behind SC, so all-in-all 30 seconds in 19 laps is probably close to being representative.
5 seconds in traffic? Probably more like 15-20 seconds. Merc also started on 6 lap old tyres. Absolutely no way of judging their true pace here.

User avatar
ringo
230
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

The car did look like it has god pace on the mediums. But sadly that pace is only good enough to hound a Haas.
How do they trust themselves to make the right setup changes when there is so much variability with the track temperature?
It can get much worse than how it is now.
They need to take off some wing, but not soo much to upset what weems like an okay balance for Lewis and George.
For Sure!!

venkyhere
venkyhere
14
Joined: 10 Feb 2024, 06:17

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Luscion wrote:
04 May 2024, 18:59
Toto just said they're changing the setup of the car before quali, maybe a different wing? they were quick in S1, lost so much time in S2 and then just werent quick enough to overtake in S3
In other words, "russian roulette"

Venturiation
Venturiation
98
Joined: 04 Jan 2023, 19:48

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post


j_ste
j_ste
1
Joined: 20 Jun 2023, 02:40

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

mkay wrote:
04 May 2024, 18:59
Toto told Ted Kravitz that the pace wasn't that bad in the Sprint. HAM finished nearly 30 seconds behind VER in 19 laps. Probably lost 5 seconds in traffic, but also had 3 laps behind SC, so all-in-all 30 seconds in 19 laps is probably close to being representative.
He he was ahead of Mag early enough, he probably gets past Hulk at some point too. They are slow but not 30 seconds slow

DGP123
DGP123
0
Joined: 15 Sep 2022, 17:31

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Venturiation wrote:
04 May 2024, 19:27
😂 doesn’t give a flying **** about this season

j_ste
j_ste
1
Joined: 20 Jun 2023, 02:40

Re: 2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

Post

Venturiation wrote:
04 May 2024, 19:27
The car is crap but the benefit of it being crap is that youre constantly around cars to battle with. Kinda fun is a terrible way