2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

Apparently there is insistent news coming out that the best PUs of 2026 will be Mercedes and Ferrari. And usually when they happen, they come true. Fernando's talent will never be expressed, it's quite sad

Fernando's talent has already been expressed. Newer fans perhaps don't know it, but it would be quite a challenge to find an older fan who doesn't appreciate Fernando's abilities as a driver. As far as the new generation goes, It's frankly a miracle the guy is still driving considering he joined the sport some 23 years ago by now. Taking the average career length, Fernando shouldn't have even reached the newer generation of fans as a driver, but hey, he keeps going at it and will probably keep going until towards the end of the 3rd decade of racing in this sport.

Just be glad Aston gave him a car last year that allowed him to show the world (at least) one more time how good he is, in spite of his age. I am sure Fernando is grateful for that as well. Sure, it would have been nice to have an even more competitive car this year, but isn't that the case for every driver?

Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. There were some bad signs last year with how the in-season development panned out, and unfortunately for them, whatever the issues are, they carried into this season as well. But obviously they have a team right now which is quite capable of producing a competitive car. They need to get on top of whatever has gone wrong and I am sure they will succeed again.

Whether Fernando will be there (and on top form) to enjoy some of that success, that remains to be seen. But either way, he has already proven himself as one of the best drivers of his generation.

thank you for that.
XreVo has me ready to jump out a window!

[Ashwinv16]

Apparently there is insistent news coming out that the best PUs of 2026 will be Mercedes and Ferrari. And usually when they happen, they come true. Fernando's talent will never be expressed, it's quite sad

Fernando's talent has already been expressed. Newer fans perhaps don't know it, but it would be quite a challenge to find an older fan who doesn't appreciate Fernando's abilities as a driver. As far as the new generation goes, It's frankly a miracle the guy is still driving considering he joined the sport some 23 years ago by now. Taking the average career length, Fernando shouldn't have even reached the newer generation of fans as a driver, but hey, he keeps going at it and will probably keep going until towards the end of the 3rd decade of racing in this sport.

Just be glad Aston gave him a car last year that allowed him to show the world (at least) one more time how good he is, in spite of his age. I am sure Fernando is grateful for that as well. Sure, it would have been nice to have an even more competitive car this year, but isn't that the case for every driver?

Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. There were some bad signs last year with how the in-season development panned out, and unfortunately for them, whatever the issues are, they carried into this season as well. But obviously they have a team right now which is quite capable of producing a competitive car. They need to get on top of whatever has gone wrong and I am sure they will succeed again.

Whether Fernando will be there (and on top form) to enjoy some of that success, that remains to be seen. But either way, he has already proven himself as one of the best drivers of his generation.

thank you for that.
XreVo has me ready to jump out a window!

I don't know where XreVo got his info from, but Honda progress isn't easily available to people as most of the work is done I'm Japan. And this time HRC is fully getting involved (the team that built the bike Honda bikes although they are in a bit of a slump but recovering). They already have the engine targets ready and pretty sure they still hold rights tot he Current ICE and RB that Ford can't "see" as mentioned in the article. I don't know about aero and stuff but in 2026 Aston will have the best engine 60% garunteed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gpblog ... or-26.html

[MichaelxScarn]

Apparently there is insistent news coming out that the best PUs of 2026 will be Mercedes and Ferrari. And usually when they happen, they come true. Fernando's talent will never be expressed, it's quite sad

Fernando's talent has already been expressed. Newer fans perhaps don't know it, but it would be quite a challenge to find an older fan who doesn't appreciate Fernando's abilities as a driver. As far as the new generation goes, It's frankly a miracle the guy is still driving considering he joined the sport some 23 years ago by now. Taking the average career length, Fernando shouldn't have even reached the newer generation of fans as a driver, but hey, he keeps going at it and will probably keep going until towards the end of the 3rd decade of racing in this sport.

Just be glad Aston gave him a car last year that allowed him to show the world (at least) one more time how good he is, in spite of his age. I am sure Fernando is grateful for that as well. Sure, it would have been nice to have an even more competitive car this year, but isn't that the case for every driver?

Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. There were some bad signs last year with how the in-season development panned out, and unfortunately for them, whatever the issues are, they carried into this season as well. But obviously they have a team right now which is quite capable of producing a competitive car. They need to get on top of whatever has gone wrong and I am sure they will succeed again.

Whether Fernando will be there (and on top form) to enjoy some of that success, that remains to be seen. But either way, he has already proven himself as one of the best drivers of his generation.

Well said!!! Nothing more to add!!!

[xReVo]

Fernando's talent has already been expressed. Newer fans perhaps don't know it, but it would be quite a challenge to find an older fan who doesn't appreciate Fernando's abilities as a driver. As far as the new generation goes, It's frankly a miracle the guy is still driving considering he joined the sport some 23 years ago by now. Taking the average career length, Fernando shouldn't have even reached the newer generation of fans as a driver, but hey, he keeps going at it and will probably keep going until towards the end of the 3rd decade of racing in this sport.

Just be glad Aston gave him a car last year that allowed him to show the world (at least) one more time how good he is, in spite of his age. I am sure Fernando is grateful for that as well. Sure, it would have been nice to have an even more competitive car this year, but isn't that the case for every driver?

Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. There were some bad signs last year with how the in-season development panned out, and unfortunately for them, whatever the issues are, they carried into this season as well. But obviously they have a team right now which is quite capable of producing a competitive car. They need to get on top of whatever has gone wrong and I am sure they will succeed again.

Whether Fernando will be there (and on top form) to enjoy some of that success, that remains to be seen. But either way, he has already proven himself as one of the best drivers of his generation.

You're right, I'm very grateful to Aston Martin, without them it probably wouldn't even be in F1 now. In fact I don't know anyone to blame. But let's face it, we all have a lot of bitterness, Fernando never had the fastest car and that's a fact. All the riders in history who have won at least one world championship have had it, but never him, that's the sadness. Not to mention the wasted time between 2014 and 2022 where he couldn't prove anything with the cars he drove, so we can't be happy about that. And add to that that we all had a bit of hope for 2026, already they take away any expectations from us, should we jump for joy? No... Alonso returned to F1 to win, not to fight for the top 10. Furthermore, I should continue to see drivers with much less talent of him to win? Absolutely not, without Alonso winning I won't watch F1 anymore and I'm Italian.

He had the fastest car in 2007. McLaren (Ron Dennis) couldn’t handle the situation and McLaren ended up losing title against Ferrari, but definitely they had the better car

Ferrari was the best car, everyone knows that. Does spygate mean anything to you? Furthermore, we could see how both Alonso and Hamilton were superior to Massa and Raikkonen in the years to come.

[xReVo]

Fernando's talent has already been expressed. Newer fans perhaps don't know it, but it would be quite a challenge to find an older fan who doesn't appreciate Fernando's abilities as a driver. As far as the new generation goes, It's frankly a miracle the guy is still driving considering he joined the sport some 23 years ago by now. Taking the average career length, Fernando shouldn't have even reached the newer generation of fans as a driver, but hey, he keeps going at it and will probably keep going until towards the end of the 3rd decade of racing in this sport.

Just be glad Aston gave him a car last year that allowed him to show the world (at least) one more time how good he is, in spite of his age. I am sure Fernando is grateful for that as well. Sure, it would have been nice to have an even more competitive car this year, but isn't that the case for every driver?

Sometimes things don't go the way you want them to. There were some bad signs last year with how the in-season development panned out, and unfortunately for them, whatever the issues are, they carried into this season as well. But obviously they have a team right now which is quite capable of producing a competitive car. They need to get on top of whatever has gone wrong and I am sure they will succeed again.

Whether Fernando will be there (and on top form) to enjoy some of that success, that remains to be seen. But either way, he has already proven himself as one of the best drivers of his generation.

thank you for that.
XreVo has me ready to jump out a window!

I don't know where XreVo got his info from, but Honda progress isn't easily available to people as most of the work is done I'm Japan. And this time HRC is fully getting involved (the team that built the bike Honda bikes although they are in a bit of a slump but recovering). They already have the engine targets ready and pretty sure they still hold rights tot he Current ICE and RB that Ford can't "see" as mentioned in the article. I don't know about aero and stuff but in 2026 Aston will have the best engine 60% garunteed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gpblog ... or-26.html

From the article you sent "Watanabe said, indicating that in parallel with this process, the internal combustion engine is being built. But with that, there is still a long way to go" ; "Some people are still the same, but for other positions it was a bit more difficult. In any case, it needs a bit of time" From these sentences you can already understand. Furthermore my sources are practically F1, everyone is more or less declaring that the best PUs will be Ferrari and Mercedes, and the word from the paddock is always true.

[diffuser]

thank you for that.
XreVo has me ready to jump out a window!

I don't know where XreVo got his info from, but Honda progress isn't easily available to people as most of the work is done I'm Japan. And this time HRC is fully getting involved (the team that built the bike Honda bikes although they are in a bit of a slump but recovering). They already have the engine targets ready and pretty sure they still hold rights tot he Current ICE and RB that Ford can't "see" as mentioned in the article. I don't know about aero and stuff but in 2026 Aston will have the best engine 60% garunteed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gpblog ... or-26.html

From the article you sent "Watanabe said, indicating that in parallel with this process, the internal combustion engine is being built. But with that, there is still a long way to go" ; "Some people are still the same, but for other positions it was a bit more difficult. In any case, it needs a bit of time" From these sentences you can already understand. Furthermore my sources are practically F1, everyone is more or less declaring that the best PUs will be Ferrari and Mercedes, and the word from the paddock is always true.

You're mad if you're using that article as a PU barometer. Come to think about it, You're mad for worrying about tge 2026 PU regs in early 2024. There is a long way to go.

[collindsilva]

Any details on why the upgrades did not work...
They cannot be doing this every year, be stagnant or going backwards that too 2 years in a row.
As a fan it is frustrating ....

[xReVo]

Any details on why the upgrades did not work...
They cannot be doing this every year, be stagnant or going backwards that too 2 years in a row.
As a fan it is frustrating ....

Because apparently, they lost balance in trying to improve the car. Consequently, in theoretical performance you improved, in practical performance you didn't because you made the car nervous. They say they will fix the balance issue with further updates

[Joseki]

Apparently there is insistent news coming out that the best PUs of 2026 will be Mercedes and Ferrari. And usually when they happen, they come true. Fernando's talent will never be expressed, it's quite sad

I've been told from a source in the paddock different things about the 2026 PUs.
I can't elaborate but do not trust people already having them ranked, it's far too early this year.

Except for Audi being a bit behind schedule and the existing manufacturers, on this basically everyone seems to agree.

[-wkst-]

It's telling that the new front wing won't be used due to the balance of the car in Monaco (according to multiple sources).

Let's wait if we see it ever again, or just in combination with further updates.

[SSJ4]

Takes me back to alpine days

[SSJ4]

Takes me back to alpine days

Pedro de la Rosa: "We have not managed to cure the balance problems in curves"

"The car is still difficult to drive."

"We talk little about the jump of the other teams."

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

I think in Monaco Mercedes proved, that nothing wrong with that rear suspension...

[diffuser]

Apparently there is insistent news coming out that the best PUs of 2026 will be Mercedes and Ferrari. And usually when they happen, they come true. Fernando's talent will never be expressed, it's quite sad

I've been told from a source in the paddock different things about the 2026 PUs.
I can't elaborate but do not trust people already having them ranked, it's far too early this year.

Except for Audi being a bit behind schedule and the existing manufacturers, on this basically everyone seems to agree.

Thank you!

[SSJ4]

feel like they should have used the new front wing to get more data and compare it to old spec with the new rear and beam wing