2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Sergej]

hope there is something to gain in S2, look at Gasly lol

[avantman]

Main problem is the bouncing in slow speed. Max mainly loses the time to Leclerc in the slow speed part of S2 and the final two corners.

max was faster in the last 2 corners. he's losing a lot everywhere on S2.

He's definitely not faster in the last corner. That bump is unsettling the RB.

they showed 'track dominance' graphic on Sky, comparing Lec and Ver. That whole final part of the lap was blue.



as you can see, it is mostly in the traction

[Cs98]

max was faster in the last 2 corners. he's losing a lot everywhere on S2.

He's definitely not faster in the last corner. That bump is unsettling the RB.

they showed 'track dominance' graphic on Sky, comparing Lec and Ver. That whole final part of the lap was blue.

https://ibb.co/WnSQKLq

It's obvious. Look at the final corner, both the speed trace and the time delta.

[Luscion]

[Sergej]

I think Max was faster in Rascasse but Leclerc was in Antony Noghes (last corner)


anyway the time lost between Lowes and Portier is insane, almost 3 tenths only there

[Cs98]

I think Max was faster in Rascasse but Leclerc was in Antony Noghes (last corner)
https://i.ibb.co/gPb32cS/rascasse.png

anyway the time lost between Lowes and Portier is insane, almost 3 tenths only there

Yeah, Rascasse was good, it's not as bumpy. But the final corner just unsettles the car and the exit is shocking compared to Leclerc.

[chrisc90]

Surprised the swimming pool chicane is blue there.

[Juzh]

Pole is out of reach but with some luck Max can be on front row, Sainz looks beatable if he puts a foot wrong, and hamilton looks to be on similar pace. So it'll be a battle between those three for P2. Alonso is a wildcard that could pop up in there as well.

[avantman]

Look at the whole section:

it's pretty much same in the end, Max was just a few thousandths faster.

[avantman]

Pole is out of reach but with some luck Max can be on front row, Sainz looks beatable if he puts a foot wrong, and hamilton looks to be on similar pace. So it'll be a battle between those three for P2. Alonso is a wildcard that could pop up in there as well.

Pole is out of reach for Perez...but with Max anything is possible Juzh

[Dunlay]

Great job there from Perez! He didn't crash.

[avantman]

Great job there from Perez! He didn't crash.

just shows how difficult the car is. you should applaud max, rather than bashing perez.
and this was the most competitive qualifying session in the history of f1 I reckon. apart from 2 backmarkers bottas and zhou, all cars within 0.55s, incredible.

[Dunlay]

Can they not take Tsunoda and put in Red Bull and see how the year goes while they can continue hunting the second driver? Move Perez to VCARB. Tsunoda is doing a stellar job.

[Just_a_fan]

Tiresome to read these kind of comments. Best car doesn't automatically translate to the record breaking and matching results that Verstappen has achieved. He is probably the single most consistent driver ever. Certainly among the absolute top 3. And Senna might've had a world champion team mate, but so what? Leclerc wiped the floor with Vettel 4xWC in the end. Verstappen would've crushed several world champion drivers if they had been in Perez's seat.

Fair enough to still rate Senna or Schumacher or Hamilton etc as the best. Thats up to each and every person to judge.
But its cheap to imply that these records are to be expected just from having a good car alone. Hamilton had a good car. He broke other records, but not these. He is recognizing Verstappens achievements. Bitter rivals yet he's expressed respect for the achievements, as has Verstappen.

So far, Max's career has mirrored Seb's. Bright early start then crushing performances in a car that suits him to a tee. What happens next? He might end up in the equivalent of the W13 and then look average.

Max is a great driver - one of the greats in the sport. But no one should view any driver through rose-tinted glasses with blinkers fitted too.

Max had just one full year in cars before he joined F1 at 17 years old. Not that he wasn't already very competitive from Day 1, but it shouldn't be surprising it took him a couple more years to really settle in and get into his prime. I think it's a mistake to assume that his current form is only because the car 'suits him to a tee'.

Max is also an elite tier sim racer in GT cars remember, which is an extremely competitive field. It's my impression that Max will be absolutely top tier in F1 up to the point that he loses motivation(and he may retire before it gets to that). He's an absolute machine, not just a driver being flattered by favorable car characteristics.

Sim racing isn't relevant. It's not real, no risk, no actual physical limitations, etc..

Max's real car racing record is what matters and is certainly enough to put him in the pantheon of greats.

[avantman]

Can they not take Tsunoda and put in Red Bull and see how the year goes while they can continue hunting the second driver? Move Perez to VCARB. Tsunoda is doing a stellar job.

Why so cruel? Want to see another young talented driver with ruined career? and this would happen if he joins Max.
It's very different to perform great in the midfield and perform great alongside Max.