2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Cs98
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propercare wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:53
LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:43
Lando is 0.18-0.19 seconds behind Leclerc in slow corners. Not much to come full circle. The rest of the lag is on straight sections. So far I’m concluding that McLaren still haven’t turned the engine up to full power.
I don't Ferrari did either, I think best to hope is maybe podium, realistically - points.
Leclerc's power trace looks nearly identical to Monaco 2023, so I think he did turn it up.

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Cs98 wrote:
25 May 2024, 14:09
propercare wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:53
LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:43
Lando is 0.18-0.19 seconds behind Leclerc in slow corners. Not much to come full circle. The rest of the lag is on straight sections. So far I’m concluding that McLaren still haven’t turned the engine up to full power.
I don't Ferrari did either, I think best to hope is maybe podium, realistically - points.
Leclerc's power trace looks nearly identical to Monaco 2023, so I think he did turn it up.
It does look like they were pushing more than us, by a little bit, but that lap was a very big marker to lay down. We have to hope he went out on lower fuel than the rest, but I doubt it.

The track will rubber in with the F2 race so this is going to remove a little of the variability in Qualifying.
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mwillems wrote:
25 May 2024, 14:11
Cs98 wrote:
25 May 2024, 14:09
propercare wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:53


I don't Ferrari did either, I think best to hope is maybe podium, realistically - points.
Leclerc's power trace looks nearly identical to Monaco 2023, so I think he did turn it up.
It does look like they were pushing more than us, by a little bit, but that lap was a very big marker to lay down. We have to hope he went out on lower fuel than the rest, but I doubt it.
Don't get me wrong, the Ferrari is still the clear favourite for pole, I'm just saying he did turn it up. Engine mode isn't worth that much here anyways.

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Piastri seemed to be a lot faster than Norris early on in tire life. Lando gradually built up speed so I think he has plenty held back.

Leclerc looks fast but he was surprised in Imola how much others improved in Q3, I expect similar here.

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mwillems wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:56
LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:43
Lando is 0.18-0.19 seconds behind Leclerc in slow corners. Not much to come full circle. The rest of the lag is on straight sections. So far I’m concluding that McLaren still haven’t turned the engine up to full power.
Anything can happen in Qualy but you may have to let this one go :D

I don't think the gap will be as big as it was in FP3 though.
By the way, about the weather. The asphalt temperature was the same as a year ago in qualifying. In this regard, everything is stable.

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propercare wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:53
LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 13:43
Lando is 0.18-0.19 seconds behind Leclerc in slow corners. Not much to come full circle. The rest of the lag is on straight sections. So far I’m concluding that McLaren still haven’t turned the engine up to full power.
I don't Ferrari did either, I think best to hope is maybe podium, realistically - points.
Well, apparently this will happen. I don't see anything wrong with this. Minimizing losses will be good.

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I’d love to see how much difference turning the PU up from ‘normal’ to ‘full power’ here at Monaco is- I can’t imagine it’s that much
Just a fan's point of view

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Cs98 wrote:
25 May 2024, 14:12
mwillems wrote:
25 May 2024, 14:11
Cs98 wrote:
25 May 2024, 14:09

Leclerc's power trace looks nearly identical to Monaco 2023, so I think he did turn it up.
It does look like they were pushing more than us, by a little bit, but that lap was a very big marker to lay down. We have to hope he went out on lower fuel than the rest, but I doubt it.
Don't get me wrong, the Ferrari is still the clear favourite for pole, I'm just saying he did turn it up. Engine mode isn't worth that much here anyways.
I take engine mode as synonymous with all the variables associated with how close to the edge they are trying to go not just technically but also in the driver, because people say "Engine mode" when they mean all of the configurations that put a car into Qualy mode.

I think they are still pushing more than us but as I say, it was a huge lap. It was all within acceptable margins before, a tenth and a half is surmountable. A tenth and a half is within the drivers reach here, let alone any changes to setup, fuel loads etc. Half a second, if genuine, is game over unless they were pushing a lot more, running lower fuel...

It's possible we made a poor setup choice in that second stint though.
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CjC wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:13
I’d love to see how much difference turning the PU up from ‘normal’ to ‘full power’ here at Monaco is- I can’t imagine it’s that much
Well, two seconds won’t make a difference, of course. :D

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LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:22
CjC wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:13
I’d love to see how much difference turning the PU up from ‘normal’ to ‘full power’ here at Monaco is- I can’t imagine it’s that much
Well, two seconds won’t make a difference, of course. :D
Yea, here I’m thinking 0.4-0.5 at the most??
Just a fan's point of view

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Also has anyone else notice that both Mclaren drivers have scrubbed their new race set of Medium and Hards?
They did the same in Imola too.
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:25
LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:22
CjC wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:13
I’d love to see how much difference turning the PU up from ‘normal’ to ‘full power’ here at Monaco is- I can’t imagine it’s that much
Well, two seconds won’t make a difference, of course. :D
Yea, here I’m thinking 0.4-0.5 at the most??
To be honest, I don’t remember myself. Probably close to what you indicated. Still, this is a short circuit, the length of the straight sections is also not very long. On the other hand, you can try to realize more power coming out of slow corners. Usually in qualifying they drive calmly in Q1, then in Q2 they take a big step forward.

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CjC wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:26
Also has anyone else notice that both Mclaren drivers have scrubbed their new race set of Medium and Hards?
They did the same in Imola too.
Last year I only noticed this with Aston. This season I have already seen this done at McLaren a couple of times. Apparently this makes some sense when the car starts from the pit stop area.

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LionsHeart wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:41
CjC wrote:
25 May 2024, 15:26
Also has anyone else notice that both Mclaren drivers have scrubbed their new race set of Medium and Hards?
They did the same in Imola too.
Last year I only noticed this with Aston. This season I have already seen this done at McLaren a couple of times. Apparently this makes some sense when the car starts from the pit stop area.
Yea Force India used to do it a lot so it’s no surprise Aston still do it now
Just a fan's point of view

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Good luck to both of our drivers, let's give it our all and enjoy this session. Anything can happen and nothing suggests that the others won't find time or if Leclerc will be perfect the moment it counts.