Thank you!Vanja #66 wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 18:45Aero Testing Restriction
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... jbNRbdYx8a
Maybe it has something to do with one of their front suspension front arms acting as a leaf spring. Maybe it's very stiff and can't be compensated enough now that McLaren and Ferrari are getting so close. It's been like this since RB18 I think, but last year there was such a big margin that it didn't show up as a real problem anywhere but Singapore.Dee wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 19:04Thank you!
"It's quite clear this is their main issue, Imola confirmed their troubles setting up their car right on bumpy circuits. ATR is just a red herring, they are super efficient with aero development and literally never made mistakes with updates since at least 2009"
Is it really a correlation issue between the sim and the car or have RB made a car with an in built imperfection? Max was saying today that no setup change could fix it and its a fundamental issue..
If so, RB have spent all of last year working on ideas that don't work as they want and will be on the back foot now catching up to others who have nailed their design.
To me, it was only in Australia that the bumps/kerbs issue became apparent and RB updates were already designed and based on their car being great in these areas. Where does the team go now in regards to fixing things?
Max said the next few circuits will be bumpy/kerby.
Could it be that with their concept they only could extract extra permance by narrowing the setup window? Then the collateral damage would be the low speed street circuits.chrisc90 wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 19:23See what the race brings tomorrow. P5 shouldn't be too bad and hopefully an aggressive strategy might salvage a few more points.
What i'm not liking at the minute is the narrower window the car seems to want to be in for setup. Something that needs to be addressed pretty quickly. They seem to have some idea what it is as going into Saturday after Friday the cars improved.
Cant win them all.
at Suzuka and China red bull were firmly ahead of very different Mclaren and Ferrari cars(to what they are now),which is firmly irrelevant.organic wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 20:16Max is clearly very critical of this aspect of the car being lacking. He's been wanting it improved for over 2 years. That it hasn't is indicative that the team is pursuing this performance window for other reasons. If we go back to typical circuit characteristics and McLaren and Ferrari are still close or ahead then they clearly made mistakes. But at Suzuka and China RB were firmly ahead. We'll see - Barcelona will be a good test.
Sim racing is genuinely even more competitive than real racing.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 17:11Sim racing isn't relevant. It's not real, no risk, no actual physical limitations, etc..
Max's real car racing record is what matters and is certainly enough to put him in the pantheon of greats.
Thoughts on Max's final q3 run?avantman wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 20:18at Suzuka and China red bull were firmly ahead of very different Mclaren and Ferrari cars(to what they are now),which is firmly irrelevant.organic wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 20:16Max is clearly very critical of this aspect of the car being lacking. He's been wanting it improved for over 2 years. That it hasn't is indicative that the team is pursuing this performance window for other reasons. If we go back to typical circuit characteristics and McLaren and Ferrari are still close or ahead then they clearly made mistakes. But at Suzuka and China RB were firmly ahead. We'll see - Barcelona will be a good test.